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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Well, you have the right to your opinion, but if you aren't disturbed by the mass murderer of two dozen children honing his skills with NRA material, I can't imagine what would disturb you. Personally I find this for profit organization sickening.
    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah, you'd love not to talk about it and to let the NRA and boomsticklovers keep training and arming the next mass murderer, wouldn't you.

    Sorry, your NRA mind tricks don't work here.
    Following your logic, we should blame 9/11 on Boeing for producing flight manuals.

    Any type of training or information has the potential to be abused, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be available.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah, you'd love not to talk about it and to let the NRA and boomsticklovers keep training and arming the next mass murderer, wouldn't you.

    Sorry, your NRA mind tricks don't work here.
    Yours don't either.
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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What do you suggest be done?
    First, stop the weird rightwing gun porn memes from the NRA that make it impossible to discuss gun control rationally.

    Second, look what other countries like the UK and Australia have done to successfully curb gun violence and see if it can be adapted to the US.

    Third, require a license to own a gun and make gun owners liable for any violence caused by that gun if it is transfered to a third party.

    Fourth, require gun owners to buy insurance to clean up for the messes they cause.

    Fifth, surcharge gun manufactureres to help pay for the mess they cause.

    Sixth, treat guns like booze and cigarettes, a health hazard that needs to be curtailed through public information, especailly against gun culture and its pornographic visions of violence.

    Seven, restrict magazines and other macho accessories like armor piercing bullets.

    Eight, if this doesn't work, ban guns like the UK and Australia did. It worked there.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Following your logic, we should blame 9/11 on Boeing for producing flight manuals.

    Any type of training or information has the potential to be abused, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be available.
    No, following your illogic.

    Boeing makes and flies planes. A good thing.

    The NRA promotes shooting guns, generally a dangerous and bad thing, especially when linked to their gun porn view of the world, which the mad shooters usually buy into.

    If you can't see the difference between aircraft and shooting people, I can't help you.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    First, stop the weird rightwing gun porn memes from the NRA that make it impossible to discuss gun control rationally.

    Second, look what other countries like the UK and Australia have done to successfully curb gun violence and see if it can be adapted to the US.

    Third, require a license to own a gun and make gun owners liable for any violence caused by that gun if it is transfered to a third party.

    Fourth, require gun owners to buy insurance to clean up for the messes they cause.

    Fifth, surcharge gun manufactureres to help pay for the mess they cause.

    Sixth, treat guns like booze and cigarettes, a health hazard that needs to be curtailed through public information, especailly against gun culture and its pornographic visions of violence.

    Seven, restrict magazines and other macho accessories like armor piercing bullets.

    Eight, if this doesn't work, ban guns like the UK and Australia did. It worked there.
    complete idiocy. lets ban hysterical loons who want to rape the constitution



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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    No, following your illogic.

    Boeing makes and flies planes. A good thing.

    The NRA promotes shooting guns, generally a dangerous and bad thing, especially when linked to their gun porn view of the world, which the mad shooters usually buy into.

    If you can't see the difference between aircraft and shooting people, I can't help you.


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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Et tu? This WAS a very simple topic until the ranters launched off topic rants and 'arguments'. The discussion centered around the NRA not doing what EVERY school I know of does... simple backround checks and keeping track of who they issue certificates to.

    Every other school I know does both.

    FYI to all the whiners and ranters- I NEVER said doing the RESPONSIBLE thing would have altered the outcome, just it is amazing the NRA is so lax, and not even a little bit responsible.

    This whole thread is meaningless if all of that (what the NRA should supposedly have done) would have made effectively zero difference.

    The point is pointless.

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    NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’s Ho

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Young man, you can't spoon feed me, you know you screwed the pooch using a commie term for what the NRA does. Dance around and try to claim it is older is silly. The NRA NEVER uses the term 'masses'.

    Oh I know how a lobbyist works, i also know wine and dine is the tip of a very unsavory iceberg...if ONLY it could be kept to just that. You also jump into the cycle where you wish, i have a much longer association with the NRA and their constant shrill cries and calls for money. If there is no 'threat' they will invent one.

    Now you dance, this isn't about the NRA violating anything, it is what RESPONSIBLE schools routinely do, insure their students are not felons or ever been declared mentally incompetent. It takes no one's right away from any citizen who can legally purchase a firearm.

    I am not claiming Lanza was a member but pointing out the NRA had infact trained him and either had no record or withheld that information. Nothing more, and nothing less
    1) Mr. Notquiteright. I will not discuss this with you further. You have sat within six feet of your computer--and could have asked me about "for the masses." You have seen fit to bring it out, and if there is a God in Heaven, it will neither do you not your cause any good. I will not discuss it further. I will not ask Mr. Cohn any more witnesses. You Mr. Chairman may call your next witness.

    2) So what you are telling me now is that you don't like that NRA is republican? That you voted for Obama? And that despite your years of membership and clear disappointment...you aren't willing to leave the organization? You joined them. Your complaints are now on dead ears. They are a pivotal part in stunting the growth of any liberal anti-gun agenda...and even stunting any republican with an antigun agenda. Why? Their ads, their money, and their lobbyists. Clearly you aren't willing to open your eyes and look at how impacted out political system has been and how effective they have been in the past 10 or so years.

    3) And I'm asking you why is it responsible rather than redundant? You fail to respond to that. At long last at what point did it become responsible to assume guilt? Tell me what purpose is there in checking?

    4) No. Clearly his mother got the Newtown shooter into shooting. I have also pointed out that the "certificate" is irrelevant. Many schools actually use the document...and the NRA certificate TEMPLATE (which if you are computer irrelevant means...the non-filled out copy of their certificate for others to copy...googleable definition...)...is on the website. Do you NOT have google?

    Check all this out. And then tell me. Why does it matter if he had an NRA certificate? And can you show conclusive proof that it was the NRA that trained him and not a school using the NRA template? Or is all you have circumstantial evidence that is irrelevant?
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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    First, stop the weird rightwing gun porn memes from the NRA that make it impossible to discuss gun control rationally.

    Second, look what other countries like the UK and Australia have done to successfully curb gun violence and see if it can be adapted to the US.

    Third, require a license to own a gun and make gun owners liable for any violence caused by that gun if it is transfered to a third party.

    Fourth, require gun owners to buy insurance to clean up for the messes they cause.

    Fifth, surcharge gun manufactureres to help pay for the mess they cause.

    Sixth, treat guns like booze and cigarettes, a health hazard that needs to be curtailed through public information, especailly against gun culture and its pornographic visions of violence.

    Seven, restrict magazines and other macho accessories like armor piercing bullets.

    Eight, if this doesn't work, ban guns like the UK and Australia did. It worked there.


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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    First, stop the weird rightwing gun porn memes from the NRA that make it impossible to discuss gun control rationally.

    Second, look what other countries like the UK and Australia have done to successfully curb gun violence and see if it can be adapted to the US.

    Third, require a license to own a gun and make gun owners liable for any violence caused by that gun if it is transfered to a third party.

    Fourth, require gun owners to buy insurance to clean up for the messes they cause.

    Fifth, surcharge gun manufactureres to help pay for the mess they cause.

    Sixth, treat guns like booze and cigarettes, a health hazard that needs to be curtailed through public information, especailly against gun culture and its pornographic visions of violence.

    Seven, restrict magazines and other macho accessories like armor piercing bullets.

    Eight, if this doesn't work, ban guns like the UK and Australia did. It worked there.

    the answer to 1 though 8 is.... no.

    no further debate necessary... thanks for the ill thought out opinions.

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