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    Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    During Supreme Court arguments Tuesday on whether gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marry, Justice Antonin Scalia wondered if having parents of the same sex may be “harmful” to children.
    Scalia jumped in to make his point when liberal justices were grilling Charles Cooper, the lawyer arguing in favor of Prop 8, California’s ban on gay marriage, about what harm it would cause opposite-sex couples.
    “If you redefine marriage to include same-sex couples,” he said, “you must permit adoption by same-sex couples, and there’s considerable disagreement among sociologists as to what the consequences of raising a child in a single-sex family, whether that is harmful to the child or not. Some states do not permit adoption by same-sex couples for that reason.”
    “I don’t think we know the answer to that,” he said. “Do you know the answer to that, whether it harms or helps the child? … That’s a possible deleterious effect, isn’t it?”
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    What an intolerant ****.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Now are the leftists and gays just so convinced they are going to win that they think they are going to win 9-0 as well. LOL.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children
    answer : no.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Voicing possible negative consequences that would result from a change in public policy is how court hearings work and is why we have a transparent and relatively reliable legal system. God bless Scalia for making sure that all sides of the issue are represented in the record for this case.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Justices routinely ask questions that may sound as if it involves their personal beliefs/leanings/political stance that really aren't. They gather all the arguments they can get their hands on and work from there. C-Span for a while there would televise quite a few of the 9th's hearings. I watched some of the most liberal justices (known to rule that way consistently) ask the most conservative sounding questions.

    Not to mention justices seem to have a love for winding up whomever is talking at the moment.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    What a piece of work Scalia is. He looks like Lou Costello on a drunk and thinks like him too, except he's not funny.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    The title of this thread is misleading considering the content of the quote posted with it.

    Scalia was not doing the wondering - in fact, he appears to take no side in the argument - he simply states that if same sex marriage is allowed then same sex couples would have a right to adopt children and sociologists are not in agreement about whether or not same sex parents is harmful to the upbringing of a child. That's a fact that he wished to be put on the record. He didn't say he agreed with it, he simply put it forward as relevant.

    Simply because you disagree with the ideological bent of those on the court you disagree with doesn't make those people evil or deserving of such disrespect.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    To answer his question, no.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The title of this thread is misleading considering the content of the quote posted with it.

    Scalia was not doing the wondering - in fact, he appears to take no side in the argument - he simply states that if same sex marriage is allowed then same sex couples would have a right to adopt children and sociologists are not in agreement about whether or not same sex parents is harmful to the upbringing of a child. That's a fact that he wished to be put on the record. He didn't say he agreed with it, he simply put it forward as relevant.

    Simply because you disagree with the ideological bent of those on the court you disagree with doesn't make those people evil or deserving of such disrespect.
    Totally disingenuous. Adoption isn't a right. You can only adopt a child if you meet strict criteria relating to whether it's in the best interest of the child. That's determined on a case by case basis and involves lots of information gathering about the proposed adopted parents, as well as a judicial determination.

    So his question was more conservatives hatemongering pretending to be an inquiry.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    I'm not so sure that SSM, if legalized throughout the country, would necessarily take with it the anti gay adoption laws in place as well, as it seems it would be viewed as an entirely separate matter in the legal sense. In any case, the state shouldn't forbid or promote parental rights based on orientation strictly, as it prospectively eliminates a slew of loving, stable households from the equation. To be considered in the same light and capability prior to actual interaction is all that should expected, and demanded quite frankly.
    Last edited by a351; 03-26-13 at 07:33 PM.

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