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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Why didn't you just come out and say that in the first place?
    Same reason you watch all 9 innings.

    From the reaction you can see that a lot of it is nimby, a lot of it is the bandwagon effect, and a lot of it is sucked up propaganda.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why would it be changed? What would be the point? Do you even have a point, or are you just boosting your post count?
    Marriage is certainly YOUR civil right and since your cocker is property, she has no say in the matter. Go for it.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    According to 2010 census data, in the US:

    131,729 same-sex married households
    514,735 unmarried same-sex households
    Thirty-one percent of the married couples and almost 14 percent of the unmarried couples said they were raising children
    Nearly 2 million children under age 18 were being raised by at least one gay or lesbian parent

    Sample size is not an issue. There are more than enough gays to be able to get valid sized samples.

    Source: http://www.politifact.com/rhode-isla...earch-has-sha/
    Again ... the point was the difference between random samples vs volunteer samples ... those numbers are all over the place ... they are census ... and they weren'tr the sample data used.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    While I cannot speak for anyone else,(wish more people on this forum felt that way) it's not my place to exclude.Nor do I have the power to do so.
    And neither do you.
    But if you ask me what my opinion is,I'd say children,plant's,and animals.
    So pretty much anything goes

    Got it

    And are you saying that gays shouldn't have the right to at least try to change it?
    Just asking?
    If states want to put it up for a vote for the people to decide, I don't have a problem with that. If gays get the special right to try and change what the definition of marriage is though, then you have to allow all the other different interest groups that want to change the definition have their chance too.

    Well,it sure isn't a theocracy,I can tell you that much.
    Since I am in an interracial marriage,me and my wife are kind of glad the SCOTUS interfered when it did.
    Interracial marriage has nothing to do with same sex marriage. It was discrimination based upon race. Not a special sexual interest group trying to change the definition from man + woman to man + ? or woman + ?. Comparing gay marriage to the real struggle of Blacks is racist and insensitive. Having black skin is not the same thing as being attracted to the same sex.

    Look,I believe in states rights like any good Republican should.
    But up to a point.
    I don't want the states to determine that my marriage to a white woman isn't valid any more.
    Eventually,even if SCOTUS doesn't interfere,I believe all 50 states will eventually allow SSM.
    See above. It's racist if you compare Gays demanding special rights to the real struggle that blacks have gone through in this country. It's insensitive and demeans the real struggle blacks had to go through to achieve racial equality.

    That's your opinion.
    Marriage not a civil right. Marriage isn't in the Bill of Rights. Marriage is not in the Constitution. The Founding Fathers never would have approved of same sex marriage. It was an alien concept to them.

    Of course I do.
    I don't know about YOUR marriage (are you even married?) but me and Selena (and me and my late first wife Allison before her) had to go to City Hall,fill out some paper work,pay a fee,and get a marriage license before we could even get to the marriage ceremony.
    Me and my wife file joint tax returns to the government.
    So yeah,I think gay marriage is a civil right.
    Marriage is not a Civil Right. It's a Social Contract and an institution with specific social and economic purposes. Not everyone has the right to marry whatever they want. Claiming it's a Civil Right is an emotional argument. Not a logical one.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Marriage is certainly YOUR civil right and since your cocker is property, she has no say in the matter. Go for it.


    Come on back when you rent a clue.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post


    Come on back when you rent a clue.
    Sounds like you have no justification for excluding your poor little cocker from marital bliss.
    Surely it's not for religious reasons or because you consider it unnatural in some way.
    So what's the justification?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Before I can answer that, what would you consider evidence?
    can you refer to any research that verifies the claims you have made?

    edit. I see this issue has been addressed and discussed in some detail.

    Redress makes good points.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    can you refer to any research that verifies the claims you have made?

    edit. I see this issue has been addressed and discussed in some detail.

    Redress makes good points.
    Redress made conflicting points.
    Presenting census data to shore bad study sampling isn't a good point.

    What we're left with is an effort to be comforted with the unfortunate discovery that the pro-SSM troops have been laboring under the influence of badly flawed "studies" or, worse, being deliberately misled.

    I presented 2 studies that suggest SSM is not likely to be benign or even neutral in it's effect on kids.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Redress made conflicting points.
    Presenting census data to shore bad study sampling isn't a good point.

    What we're left with is an effort to be comforted with the unfortunate discovery that the pro-SSM troops have been laboring under the influence of badly flawed "studies" or, worse, being deliberately misled.

    I presented 2 studies that suggest SSM is not likely to be benign or even neutral in it's effect on kids.
    You seem to not understand what I have said.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You seem to not understand what I have said.
    ... you presented census data that purported to show that the universe of homosexuals was pretty big so, implicitly, the sampling was good despite it's self-selection nature.

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