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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    He's not the only one.

    But the bottom line is that regardless of how shoddy hetero child rearing can sometimes be, homosexual child rearing, at least by the numbers, can actually influence the child's sexual proclivities in addition to other implications. At a minimum it also casts suspicion on the notion that homosexuality is established at birth.

    And if there can be 2 bottom lines, the other one is that there isn't enough data to conclude SSM definitely has no effect on children.
    There are plenty of straight people who have gay sex and gay people who have straight sex, usually inebriated, for the purpose of (drum roll) getting off !!!!!!!!!!.............Oh, the humanity............................

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    ... the question was ... what if the data showed that adopted children of SS couples were more likely to become homosexual than otherwise.
    There's really only one appropriate way for SSM proponents to answer the question.
    You're dancing around it but is your answer "It doesn't matter" ?
    I couldn't care less. It only matters if you assume that being homosexual is a bad thing. Since it's not, what difference does it make?
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Gays are going to force all heterosexuals to experience sodomy so they emotionally understand what it's like to be gay

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gays are going to force all heterosexuals to experience sodomy so they emotionally understand what it's like to be gay
    so are heterosexual men who engage in anal sex with female partners trying to make their partners understand what it means to be a gay man .... or are they trying to understand what it means to be gay themselves?
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    He's not the only one.

    But the bottom line is that regardless of how shoddy hetero child rearing can sometimes be, homosexual child rearing, at least by the numbers, can actually influence the child's sexual proclivities in addition to other implications. At a minimum it also casts suspicion on the notion that homosexuality is established at birth.

    And if there can be 2 bottom lines, the other one is that there isn't enough data to conclude SSM definitely has no effect on children.
    even if that were the case, and it certainly doesn't seem to be ... if you had any clue you would prefer to see a young adult who was gay, who came from a loving family and felt positive about themselves than a young adult who was straight, came from an abusive home, and suffered depression, anxiety and serious self esteem issues.

    If you don't agree with me, then you need to get out in the real world and see what happens to kids who are damaged by poor parenting.

    A home that is loving, and where children are valued is what we should want for ALL children regardless of the sexuality of the parents.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    It was a question. What if there was data showing it. Would that affect your opinion in any way?
    bubba, after several decades working with young people and adolescents in a range of settings, I have had plenty of opportunity to see the damage poor parenting can do. I have also had plenty of opportunity to come across kids who have been raised by same sex parents - originally these were children raised (usually) by two mothers - but who were the product of a previous relationship.

    I have seen no evidence that the parents being gay is problematic - except for in some cases kids being bullied/victimized by others. not always though, and sometimes, even in these cases the responses of the parents played a key role in assisting them to put things in perspective.

    more social; acceptance (ie gay marriage) would go a long way to reducing the likelihood that these kids would be victimized/bullied - and that alone IMHO makes gay marriage a good thing.

    I don't expect you to agree with me, but coming from my position there really is no other view that I can have.

    I prefer to see young people who feel valued, loved, and generally good about themselves and their relationships with the significant people in their lives.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Nope again.
    Yup. Your denials are irrelevant. Research is relevant.

    As long as you're monkeying around with changing the intent of Amendments, might as well take a look at ALL of 'em again.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Without being slippery, explain how & why that slippery slope argument is illogical and irrelevant and does not apply.
    Each type of "marriage" that you mention has different issues, challenges, and problems associated with it. None relate to SSM nor have the research backing the SSM does.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Talking about the effect on kids.
    Citing data from "findings" or "surveys" with such a tiny sample.
    What if there was data showing that the incidence of homosexuality among children raised by SS parents was higher than those raised by straight parents?
    What would that tell you? Anything?
    There are scores of research studies that demonstrate that children raised by single sex parents do as well as those raised by opposite sex parents. This is such a well established result that major organizations such as the APA, the AMA, and WHO have accepted these results as facts. Your denials of this are irrelevant in the face of peer reviewed studies and the acceptance by research based organizations. In fact, your denials seem to be completely based on personal bias, as their validity has been disproven based on substantiation.

    And since studies show that the incidence of homosexuality among children raised by SS couples is equivalent to that of children raised by straight parents, your question is irrelevant.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Gays are going to force all heterosexuals to experience sodomy so they emotionally understand what it's like to be gay
    Congratulations. This may be the most ignorant post in the history of this site. Please post any evidence that what you said has anything to do with reality.
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