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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Back to this argument.
    We also have plenty of experience with the effects of SSM on children.
    As positive as those with traditional marriage. So, both Scalia's... and your question has been answered.



    If two gays marry that marriage does not effect YOUR marriage in any way.
    If you think it does, prove it.
    No we don't have plenty of experience.

    Tough to imagine how it affects MY marriage ... true.

    But ... how about if there was a movement to interpret, say, the 2nd Amendment, in such a way that it really DID mean someone is free to possess bazookas & operational tanks or even just unlicensed handguns? Or that despite the 1st Amendment, someone really CAN shout FIRE in a crowded theatre.

    Now ... those things may not affect you because no one knows where you live & you don't get out much, but would it be okay with you?

    If you say it would affect you, prove it. Not with a manufactured what-if ... but rather with the same kind of proof you were asking of me.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    true.

    and there are some pretty poor examples around !
    You bet.

    So let's try this ... think about those examples ... think about the possible reasons they are poor examples ... now think about how many of those reasons would go away and/or how many more reasons would actually be added by having 2 gay parents.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    No we don't have plenty of experience.

    But ... how about if there was a movement to interpret, say, the 2nd Amendment, in such a way that it really DID mean someone is free to possess bazookas & operational tanks or even just unlicensed handguns? Or that despite the 1st Amendment, someone really CAN shout FIRE in a crowded theatre.
    That's quite a handful of straws you grabbed.

    Isn't that a rather faulty analogy you threw up there?
    I mean,bazookas and operational tanks and even unlicensed handguns can be used to KILL people.
    Shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater can cause a lot of injuries or even deaths.
    When was the last time you heard of someone using a "marriage" to kill a bunch of little kids at some school?
    When was the last time someone shouted "MARRIAGE" in a crowded theater and caused a massive panic stricken stampede toward the exits?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    You bet.

    So let's try this ... think about those examples ... think about the possible reasons they are poor examples ... now think about how many of those reasons would go away and/or how many more reasons would actually be added by having 2 gay parents.
    You know,if you change the word "gay" to "interracial" it would still be a bullcrap argument.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    That's quite a handful of straws you grabbed.

    Isn't that a rather faulty analogy you threw up there?
    I mean,bazookas and operational tanks and even unlicensed handguns can be used to KILL people.
    Shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theater can cause a lot of injuries or even deaths.
    When was the last time you heard of someone using a "marriage" to kill a bunch of little kids at some school?
    When was the last time someone shouted "MARRIAGE" in a crowded theater and caused a massive panic stricken stampede toward the exits
    ?
    Whoooooaaaaa, now THAT might be interesting to explore.

    But for now, let's stick to the 1st, 2nd, & 14th Amendments.
    By your reasoning, it sounds like your threshold of concern for legality is if a life is in danger.
    My threshold isn't quite as elevated.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    You know,if you change the word "gay" to "interracial" it would still be a bullcrap argument.
    Is that the analogy you really want to go with?

    Gay marriage : Traditional marriage :: Interracial marriage : Traditional marriage?

    I think that might be offensive to some people.

    Not me, of course. You may be just stirring the pot a bit.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Is that the analogy you really want to go with?

    Gay marriage : Traditional marriage :: Interracial marriage : Traditional marriage?

    I think that might be offensive to some people.

    Not me, of course. You may be just stirring the pot a bit.
    You mean like you've been doing?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Is that the analogy you really want to go with?

    Gay marriage : Traditional marriage :: Interracial marriage : Traditional marriage?

    I think that might be offensive to some people.

    Not me, of course. You may be just stirring the pot a bit.
    You are the ones who mixed bazookas and tanks with marriage.
    You get to use bad analogies,but no one else is?
    I know married people fight (I;m married also) but come on.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    You mean like you've been doing?
    Nope. I'd never compare interracial marriage to gay marriage.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    You are the ones who mixed bazookas and tanks with marriage.
    You get to use bad analogies,but no one else is?
    I know married people fight (I;m married also) but come on.

    I mixed bazookas and tanks with the 2nd Amendment. I'm covered.
    But comparing race to homosexuality? That was your handiwork. And may I say tsk tsk.
    And come to think of it, that's what gay marriage proponents are trying to do by using the Equal Protection clause to legitimize SSM.
    Sounds pretty bad, doesn't it?

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