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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    I'm not the one demanding the definition of marriage be changed

    As far as I'm concerned Marriage = Man + Woman

    That view will never change. Marriage has always meant man + woman. Even the supreme court recognized this. You're the one claiming gays should have the special right over any other group of people to change the definition of marriage. Why do gays get that special right over any other sexual interest group?
    no ... I'm not demanding anything ...

    I just think that people should be able to legally marry the person they love (provided that person is able to give consent and does so) regardless of the sex/sexuality of the individuals concerned.

    I can't see how that gives them rights over others ... but I see that people such as yourself want to denythese people their right to make this choice.

    I can only guess at why that is ....
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Why are only gays allowed to change the definition from man + woman to man + ? or woman + ?
    They're not. We're all doing it together, gays, straights, bis, transgenders, hermaphrodites, and everything in between.

    Show of hands, who else is tired of hearing this "definition of marriage" crap? As if it's an actual thing. As if it's a law or a historical precedent.

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    interesting ....

    interesting article .... did you read it?
    The answer, of course, as to why natural selection wouldn't work against homosexuality would be that while it may not be good for the individual's ability to pass on their genetic material, having about 5% of the population as homosexuals might make the species more successful. The evolutionary mutation is not necessarily that the individual is homosexual, but rather that a tendency exists within the individual that manifests a certain portion of the time. Human beings that are gay about 5% of the time are apparently more successful than humans that are gay 0% or 10% of the time. Recessive traits can be evolutionarily beneficial, too.

    What does any of this have to do with whether or not gay couples can raise children? It's been studied ad nauseum. They can. Just as well as anyone else.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Nigeria? Really? You've got to be kidding me

    We know what Islam does to gays

    Try again. Look even SCOTUS recognized that marriage has always meant man + woman. Not sure why you are trying to dispute this, unless you think even the liberal justices on SCOTUS are wrong.
    maybe try reading the articles instead of knee jerking as if you have st vitus' dance.

    ... the evidence is clear that marriage has not always in all cultures been defined as between a man and a woman.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    It is on topic. And frankly it doesn't matter what I think. Your pal Scalia and his buddies have a bit of a problem. Fortunately the American people are getting it right. Your views are no longer in the majority. The religioius right to which you clearly belong are failing miserably.

    The majority of Americans understand that two people should be able to get married. And it's none of anyone else's business.

    It impacts no one else. That's the amazing part. That righties are so unbelievably selfish. All because of what you read in a book of fairy tales no less. Mind your own business and leave gay people alone. They should be able to be as miserable as the rest of us.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    They're not. We're all doing it together, gays, straights, bis, transgenders, hermaphrodites, and everything in between.

    Show of hands, who else is tired of hearing this "definition of marriage" crap? As if it's an actual thing. As if it's a law or a historical precedent.



    The answer, of course, as to why natural selection wouldn't work against homosexuality would be that while it may not be good for the individual's ability to pass on their genetic material, having about 5% of the population as homosexuals might make the species more successful. The evolutionary mutation is not necessarily that the individual is homosexual, but rather that a tendency exists within the individual that manifests a certain portion of the time. Human beings that are gay about 5% of the time are apparently more successful than humans that are gay 0% or 10% of the time. Recessive traits can be evolutionarily beneficial, too.

    What does any of this have to do with whether or not gay couples can raise children? It's been studied ad nauseum. They can. Just as well as anyone else.
    this is common sense ....
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    interesting ....



    interesting article .... did you read it?
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    no ... I'm not demanding anything ...

    I just think that people should be able to legally marry the person they love (provided that person is able to give consent and does so) regardless of the sex/sexuality of the individuals concerned.

    I can't see how that gives them rights over others ... but I see that people such as yourself want to denythese people their right to make this choice.

    I can only guess at why that is ....
    So you believe marriage is a "Civil Right" correct?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    maybe try reading the articles instead of knee jerking as if you have st vitus' dance.

    ... the evidence is clear that marriage has not always in all cultures been defined as between a man and a woman.
    So you disagree with even the liberal justices on the SCOTUS

    And you're trying to paint me as extreme?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    They're not. We're all doing it together, gays, straights, bis, transgenders, hermaphrodites, and everything in between.

    Show of hands, who else is tired of hearing this "definition of marriage" crap? As if it's an actual thing. As if it's a law or a historical precedent.
    So anything goes in your book. Got it.

    Anyone can marry whatever they want. I wouldn't expect anything less from a Socialist.

    The answer, of course, as to why natural selection wouldn't work against homosexuality would be that while it may not be good for the individual's ability to pass on their genetic material, having about 5% of the population as homosexuals might make the species more successful. The evolutionary mutation is not necessarily that the individual is homosexual, but rather that a tendency exists within the individual that manifests a certain portion of the time. Human beings that are gay about 5% of the time are apparently more successful than humans that are gay 0% or 10% of the time. Recessive traits can be evolutionarily beneficial, too.

    What does any of this have to do with whether or not gay couples can raise children? It's been studied ad nauseum. They can. Just as well as anyone else.
    Can gays procreate through gay sex? Yes or No

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Nigeria? Really? You've got to be kidding me

    We know what Islam does to gays

    Try again. Look even SCOTUS recognized that marriage has always meant man + woman.
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