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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't think that there has been any in-depth study to prove one way or the other. So I do not think his question was that far out of line. I would assume, you all know what assumptions do to you, that a child is better off being raised by a two parent family. Since I have seen or heard of nothing to prove one way or the other, that statement of mine applies to both straight and gay couples.

    I would much rather see a child raised by a gay couple than spend his childhood life in an orphanage. My opinion.
    And that's exactly what the court in an adoption proceeding seeks to determine: what is in the best interest of the child. That is the case whether gays are allowed to adopt or not. Allowing gays to adopt won't change that.

    So Scalia's question is inflamatory and a deflection from the issue.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yeah, and how is that relevant to the fact that if they don't exclude them courts still have to determine that a particular couple is appropriate for a particular adopted child.

    You keep missing the point and always will.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Not any more than crazy/stupid hetero parents or single parents are harmful to children.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    You're right...carry on!...:lafmo
    No, no, don't let me interrupt your homophobic memefest.

    Still, explain, since Scalia didn't, how it makes any difference if gay couples are allowed to adopt since either way, there is a judicial proceeding to determine that the adoption is in the best interest of the child. Go into detail using Scaliaspeak.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    No, no, don't let me interrupt your homophobic memefest.

    Still, explain, since Scalia didn't, how it makes any difference if gay couples are allowed to adopt since either way, there is a judicial proceeding to determine that the adoption is in the best interest of the child. Go into detail using Scaliaspeak.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I must refrain as I feel I have derailed your persistently consistent conservophobic memefest enough...by all means, continue...:cofffeepap
    Translated: can't answer the question.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

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    Now are the leftists and gays just so convinced they are going to win that they think they are going to win 9-0 as well. LOL.
    I don't know where you pulled that gem from.


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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    And that's exactly what the court in an adoption proceeding seeks to determine: what is in the best interest of the child. That is the case whether gays are allowed to adopt or not. Allowing gays to adopt won't change that.

    So Scalia's question is inflamatory and a deflection from the issue.
    I'll be honest, gay marriage is not a hot button issue with me, not like the debt/defict is. So his question really does not bother me. The piling up of debt can drive this country to ruin, whether gay marriage is approved or not, either way it won't destroy this country like the debt can. I hope it happens, but even if the court upholds the ban, gay marriage will happen state by state instead of all of once. Even if the court strikes down the ban, it will effect only one state.

    I think the SCOTUS will punt, then the 9th circuit court ruling stands which struck down the ban. But the ruling will only apply to California.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Translated: can't answer the question.
    Just for my edification please point out the question you asked in #44 that I can't answer...

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I'll be honest, gay marriage is not a hot button issue with me, not like the debt/defict is. So his question really does not bother me. The piling up of debt can drive this country to ruin, whether gay marriage is approved or not, either way it won't destroy this country like the debt can. I hope it happens, but even if the court upholds the ban, gay marriage will happen state by state instead of all of once. Even if the court strikes down the ban, it will effect only one state.

    I think the SCOTUS will punt, then the 9th circuit court ruling stands which struck down the ban. But the ruling will only apply to California.
    I think you're probably right. It isn't a hot button issue with me either, but I respect and support those who are concerned about their right to marry.

    Frankly I'd dump the whole "marriage" verbiage from civil law and only allow for civil unions as the only legally binding form of domestic partnerships, which would apply to consenting adults, gay or straight. I'd let religions use the word "marriage" for their ceremonies but they would have no legal force and they could have whatever restrictions or requirements the particular church wanted. They can have the word as far as I'm concerned. Civil law should rid itself of it.

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