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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And if I were Mr. Olsen, I would have responded exactly as I said to you. "Your honor, that's just a stupid red herring and has nothing to do with the discussion of SSM.
    If you want to discuss incest laws, I believe there are other places where it might apply
    ".
    See that's where you're wrong. It does apply.
    Answer this.
    When the Equal Protection clause was established in the 14th Amendment, do you think it anticipated someday it would be used to sanction same-sex marriage?
    No?
    Yet here we are today, arguing about a possible successful use of that clause to do that very thing. And the legal precedent would be established.
    Yet you think it can't possibly be used to apply to incest marriage. Well me and Sonia have recognized that it very well could.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I am neither a leftist or a 'gay'. But I understand the Constitution and it's intent. Yeah, they screwed up at first with equality, and it took a long time to correct those mistakes. Eventually they will all be fixed, regardless of the bible thumpers.

    I know what I think the final decisions should be, but who knows which way they will go, if they decide anything at all.
    You realize that most Court Watchers believe that it was the conservative side of the bench that called the Prop 8 case up in the first place with a presumed intent of slowing the tide toward gay rights don't you?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Now are the leftists and gays just so convinced they are going to win that they think they are going to win 9-0 as well. LOL.
    What about all the conservatives and republicans that support marriage equality?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by mr4anarchy View Post
    What about all the conservatives and republicans that support marriage equality?
    They aren't on the SCOTUS. As I posted just above you, Court Watchers believe the conservative bench called up the Prop 8 case to try to slow the tide and apparently were frustrated in oral arguments that they cannot get an angle on the case one way or the other and may dismiss it as an "improvidently given" case.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    You realize that most Court Watchers believe that it was the conservative side of the bench that called the Prop 8 case up in the first place with a presumed intent of slowing the tide toward gay rights don't you?
    Which would support my claim that the right is doing themselves in.
    "nah i think the way cons want to turn this into a political issue is funny though" - Philly Boss

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Which would support my claim that the right is doing themselves in.
    Nope. It undermines your apparent bent that gay rights are a Constitutional and not a political issue.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    An amazing amount of ignorance in the above post. First, your general paintbrush of those that do not have the bigoted view that kids raised by SS couples are a problem as 'on the left'. I am far from the left, and I realize through being a parent, knowing SS couples that have raised outstanding kids, and reading the real (and unbiased) studies, that there is no issue with kids being raised by SS couples. No more than kids that are raised by OS couples. Again, its insane views like expressed in the above post that is why 'the right' keeps losing elections and losing ground. This strange adherence to a book that is a work of fiction, rather than standing up for freedom and equality in this nation. Selective following of Constitution, when it fits their beliefs, makes the right and the left two peas in a pod.
    Actually the reason Republicans are losing elections is that the electorate is being overtaken by clueless young people who are much more interested in their immediate personal gratification than what is actually good for the country. Turn everything over to the government, surely their intentions are pure so you can spend more time on Facebook and pursuing whatever feels good today. I no longer have any interest in what these people have to say. As far as I'm concerned they will get what they deserve. I'm just out to make sure I don't get pulled down with them. "Change" is not always good even if it feels good today. But hey, you guys will figure that out. Find funding for a few more "unbiased" studies (oddly enough performed by those with an agenda and expected outcome), whatever makes you feel all intellectual and superior for now. When that falls apart for you, don't come knocking.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    The argument of what is best for the children is lost on the left.
    You can't make this **** up. Right wingers suggesting they actually give a flippin rip about children.

    I will laughing all day about this one. Thank you!

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    You can't make this **** up. Right wingers suggesting they actually give a flippin rip about children.

    I will laughing all day about this one. Thank you!
    Of course you will. That's what you guys do when you have no argument. You resort to ridicule assuming that we care what you think and will avoid your pointing and laughing. Thing is we don't care about what you think. You are demonstratively wrong time after time. Conservative values have been beneficial to raising children for centuries. Assuming your way is better because it is different is a fallacy as evidenced by, well, you. Your parents were the result of a more liberal approach to child rearing which resulted in this generation. Case proven. Your parents ****ed you up and you can't see it. As luck would have it this stuff swings in cycles and it is correcting as we speak. All of your complaints about conservatives will soon be your issues, don't expect us to step in to help you pick up the pieces.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Of course you will. That's what you guys do when you have no argument. You resort to ridicule assuming that we care what you think and will avoid your pointing and laughing. .
    Remind me again of the things republicans have doneto support kids instead of assuming you know anything at all about the way I was raised.

    You really are a laugh a minute.

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