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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Sooo you have nothing which hasn't already been refuted a million time before. Got it.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    I have found that when a priest of the "church" must dishonor himself and go out of his way to blatantly stalk, harass, and censor a .. well, "heretic" .. it usually means the "heretic" has something truthful to say that the "church" finds threatening to their protection and power, that might cause their cathedral of cards to collapse should it ever become common knowledge.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    There have been several studies which show children are best raised by their biological parents in a low conflict household

    Gay marriage does not follow Natural Law

    Why do gays get to change the definition of marriage that applies only to them as a sexual interest group?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I have found that when a priest of the "church" must dishonor himself and go out of his way to blatantly stalk, harass, and censor a .. well, "heretic" .. it usually means the "heretic" has something truthful to say that the "church" finds threatening to their protection and power, that might cause their cathedral of cards to collapse should it ever become common knowledge.

    I have found that when someone lies and presents false information... even after it has been thoroughly refuted and shown to be invalid, it usually means that they have an agenda that they are unable to see beyond. You should take this advice and either educate yourself on this topic, or examine your motivations for presenting misinformation.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    There have been several studies which show children are best raised by their biological parents in a low conflict household
    Present them.

    Gay marriage does not follow Natural Law
    Prove it.

    Why do gays get to change the definition of marriage that applies only to them as a sexual interest group?
    If other groups want to expand marriage to them, let them try.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    I think all the studies have found no meaningful differences but a lot of them have been very small studies. There is some indication that gays and straights have different parenting styles with the gays making more effort to be aware of parenting techniques and straights more likely to just wing it as parents. As a straight parent, I can definitely say we definitely just wing it.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

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    What in the hell are you talking about? Your link was a failure that didn't touch my question and this has nothing to do with if I'm a libertarian. I'm sorry you can't read your own links, but no where in your link does it even address my point. Try harder next time.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I think all the studies have found no meaningful differences but a lot of them have been very small studies. There is some indication that gays and straights have different parenting styles with the gays making more effort to be aware of parenting techniques and straights more likely to just wing it as parents. As a straight parent, I can definitely say we definitely just wing it.
    I bet the selection of individual couples has a big impact on the more positive results for gay couples. Being that I imagine any gay couple trying to adopt is likely facing a number of difficult social hurdles, needs to prove financial stability, and the adoption is naturally pre-planned

    Most hetero parents just fall into the job

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    So... on the whole gay adoption thing.

    I am only aware of a few small scale tests done by psychologists and sociologists in America, most of the tests done with families living on the east coast. Those are the only tests done in the US, in regards to gay adoption, that I am aware of. And so far, those tests have concluded that children that are are raised by homosexuals have no increased risk to develop harmfully. That means... that if the gays are good parents, they may just do a good job. If they are bad parents, they'll do a crappy job.

    However, I must stress that these tests are small scale. A few hundred homosexual couples, all of them, living in pretty much the same places.

    So are these tests relevant? Yes. Are they absolute? Not by a long shot.

    I think that the correct thing to do is to have states fund programs that look into this matter, all over the 50 states really, with a wide array of parameters to look into. And based on the results of those tests that should span between 10-30years, decide on whether indeed, gay adoption should be legal or not. If there is no extra risk associated to children being raised by homosexual couples, then lets legalize it. There are plenty of children out there who are abandoned or mistreated by bad straight parents and they could use a home. But if it does present an increased risk, then lets not legalize gay adoption.

    It is time to stop working on the basis of sentiments people. Lets apply the scientific method to a problem and act according to the results.

    EDIT: http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/n...-adjusted-kids

    This is a public article from 2005, so before all this BS of a hype. DON'T TRUST WHAT THE MEDIA SOURCES TELL YOU THAT IS FROM 2010 ONWARD, THEY ARE SUBJECTED TO POLITICAL PRESSURE.

    15 studies on more than 500 children, As I said, small scale studies... 500 kids, not much to make a final, absolute ruling on.
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    Studies from 1981 to 1994, including 260 children reared by either heterosexual mothers or same-sex mothers after divorce, found no differences in intelligence, type or prevalence of psychiatric disorders, self-esteem, well-being, peer relationships, couple relationships, or parental stress.
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    While further study should be done, this is important for pediatricians to know so they can learn more about variations in families and give appropriate advice in optimizing the child's development, Perrin says.

    Carol Berkowitz, MD, former president of AAP, says this analysis is important in that it combines evidence-based studies.

    "This subject evokes a lot of emotions," she says. "Some of the studies on this subject in the past have been weighted and biased, based on nothing more than the researcher's views."

    Evidence-based studies are important in helping pediatricians in their practices and creating policy for the future, she says.
    EDIT 2: Then, there is also another article... that states the opposite.

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...5/may/05053106

    The Spanish Association of Pediatrics firmly backs up the findings of the report, stating that a “family nucleus with two fathers or two mothers is clearly dangerous for the child”.
    This all means that we need to do more studying on the issue, independent of political partisanship or personal emotions, before we can come to a scientifically sound conclusion.

    I am trying to find a study from Norway that stated that gay parents aren't harmful to children... and I remember one from England from 1999 saying that children who are raised by gay parents are more likely to develop poor social skills and lack ambition.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You realize that this is irrelevant. It would be relevant if during those 6,000 years we had evidence that SSM couple did NOT do well raising kids... and only now is new evidence presenting the opposite. I can site evidence that shows that traditional families screw up kids. What does that prove? That some traditional families screw up kids. Show it be outlawed? No. There is plenty of research on single sex couples raising kids. Overwhelmingly, it's positive. The 6,000 year crap means zero.
    It's irrelevant to you. You exist. How you came to exist is the question you need to answer. 6,000 years is a guess at recorded history. Outside of that it means nothing.

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