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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    The SC makes decisions accepting or rejecting a challenge based on implications of the arguments posed to them. You saw in #123 that even Sotomajor had concerns.
    Hey well if we're going to use your logic, you claim SSM could harm children, so since most gays come from heterosexual marriage we should really reconsider allowing heterosexuals to marry right?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Being gay and being in a gay relationship IS NOT illegal though and so disallowing gay marriage is wrong. Get the point now?
    Gay marriage is disallowed by law (in places) and is being challenged on a civil rights basis.
    Incest marriages are disallowed and could be challenged on the same basis if marriage was declared a civil right.
    THAT's the point.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Except that is the argument used by the anti-prop 8 litigants: Marriage is an unrestricted fundamental right. If that is true, then a State cannot have any laws regulating marriage, which means number of participants, sexes, ages, relationship, etc.
    I see nothing from the majority of anti-prop 8 litigants that talks about UNRESTRICTED. Care to show us where it says that?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Hey well if we're going to use your logic, you claim SSM could harm children, so since most gays come from heterosexual marriage we should really reconsider allowing heterosexuals to marry right?
    Much less have children. They might have a gay one yanno

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Well since the majority of gays are from heterosexual parents, I guess we should outlaw heterosexual marriage right?
    You could give it a shot.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I see nothing from the majority of anti-prop 8 litigants that talks about UNRESTRICTED. Care to show us where it says that?
    SOTOMAYOR: Mr. Olson, the bottom line that you’re being asked — and — and it is one that I’m interested in the answer: If you say that marriage is a fundamental right, what State restrictions could ever exist? Meaning, what State restrictions with respect to the number of people, with respect to — that could get married — the incest laws, the mother and child, assuming that they are the age — I can — I can accept that the State has probably an overbearing interest on — on protecting a child until they’re of age to marry, but what’s left?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Gay marriage is disallowed by law (in places) and is being challenged on a civil rights basis.
    Incest marriages are disallowed and could be challenged on the same basis if marriage was declared a civil right.
    THAT's the point.
    INCESTIAL relationships are illegal, so it would be logical to state INCESTIAL marriages should be illegal.

    Gay Relationships are NOT illegal, so it would be logical to state SSM marriage should NOT be illegal.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    SOTOMAYOR: Mr. Olson, the bottom line that you’re being asked — and — and it is one that I’m interested in the answer: If you say that marriage is a fundamental right, what State restrictions could ever exist? Meaning, what State restrictions with respect to the number of people, with respect to — that could get married — the incest laws, the mother and child, assuming that they are the age — I can — I can accept that the State has probably an overbearing interest on — on protecting a child until they’re of age to marry, but what’s left?
    That's SOTOMAYOR asking the question, NOT litigants of anti-prop 8.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I see nothing from the majority of anti-prop 8 litigants that talks about UNRESTRICTED. Care to show us where it says that?
    They say it's a civil right so need a damn good reason to restrict it. That's now it works.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    You could give it a shot.
    Would you and the majority of the right be behind such a measure? No. That's because your statements are pretty hypocritical.

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