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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Would it be harmful to a child if daddy had two wives? A wife and a husband? Three husbands? Perhaps a goat?

    Liberals live in a strange reality.

    Oh look everybody! One of those people and their absurd comparisons has shown up.

    Polygamy should not harm any children in such a family, after all it is a practice that has been around as long, if not longer than monogamous marriages.

    The "goat"? Are you in love with a goat? Tell me, how do you think same-sex marriage is comparable to marrying a goat?
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I'd be more worried if fundamentalist Christian parents are harmful to children. After all, I've never seen a gay couple allow their sick child to die a horrible, painful death because they think some magical pixie in the sky would save them.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Aw nicely done, a conservative attempts to show they do appreciate nuance in political thought -- Lots of actions "could possibly be considered a civil right", as liberals and progressives often note, there is often a wide range of possible answers to complex questions, a wide range that does not indicate probability.
    Such "possibilities do not however, warrant a comparison of same-sex marriage with incestuous marriage or with any of the other totally absurd, attempted comparisons being spewed forth by the rightie media
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    uh oh ... from yesterday's SC Q&A ... this is gonna leave a mark ...

    SOTOMAYOR: Mr. Olson, the bottom line that you’re being asked — and — and it is one that I’m interested in the answer: If you say that marriage is a fundamental right, what State restrictions could ever exist? Meaning, what State restrictions with respect to the number of people, with respect to — that could get married the incest laws, the mother and child, assuming that they are the age — I can — I can accept that the State has probably an overbearing interest on — on protecting a child until they’re of age to marry, but what’s left?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Oh look everybody! One of those people and their absurd comparisons has shown up.

    Polygamy should not harm any children in such a family, after all it is a practice that has been around as long, if not longer than monogamous marriages.

    The "goat"? Are you in love with a goat? Tell me, how do you think same-sex marriage is comparable to marrying a goat?
    heh heh ... see comment #123. I'm enjoying this. Let's watch.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    uh oh ... from yesterday's SC Q&A ... this is gonna leave a mark ...

    [I]SOTOMAYOR: Mr. Olson, the bottom line that you’re being asked — and — and it is one that I’m interested in the answer: If you say that marriage is a fundamental right, what State restrictions could ever exist?
    Bingo.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Bingo.
    Yeah... I've been trying to make that point on another thread for days now. But I must admit, ol' Sonia has a tad more gravitas than I do. Especially being a big Lefty.

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    But in some places gay marriage IS not allowed and that's being challenged ... get the point now?

    NO, I don't get the point. There is a great deal of scientific knowledge showing the potential for genetic harm to any children born of an incestuous relationship. Now if a brother and a sister want to marry and she is of child bearing age, then I think the two partners should be sterilised, you know -- just to prevent any weird mutants from being born.

    also - the definition of incest has varied over the years, with marriages of first cousins being relatively common amongst European aristocracy. Such marriages resulted in such genetic defects as hemophilia in the relatives of Queen Victoria and her cousins, the Romanovs of Russia and Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany

    for more on just how interconnected the noble, politically important and royal families of Europe came to be by the start of the 20th Century, European Family Trees
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Those against same sex marriage think they have a winner in the question posed by Justice Sotomayor: If you say that marriage is a fundamental right, what State restrictions could ever exist?

    simple answer: those conditions that pose a threat to future generations would prevent marriage.


    Hey bubba - do you love a goat well enough to marry one? Tell us, how do you gain the "informed consent" of an animal?
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    NO, I don't get the point. There is a great deal of scientific knowledge showing the potential for genetic harm to any children born of an incestuous relationship. Now if a brother and a sister want to marry and she is of child bearing age, then I think the two partners should be sterilised, you know -- just to prevent any weird mutants from being born.

    also - the definition of incest has varied over the years, with marriages of first cousins being relatively common amongst European aristocracy. Such marriages resulted in such genetic defects as hemophilia in the relatives of Queen Victoria and her cousins, the Romanovs of Russia and Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany

    for more on just how interconnected the noble, politically important and royal families of Europe came to be by the start of the 20th Century, European Family Trees
    You're obfuscating the point ... see comment #123

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Those against same sex marriage think they have a winner in the question posed by Justice Sotomayor: If you say that marriage is a fundamental right, what State restrictions could ever exist?

    simple answer: those that pose a threat to future generations.


    Hey bubba - do you love a goat well enough to marry one? Tell us, how do you gain the "informed consent" of an animal?
    So then there should be no incest laws covering gay marriages, right? Or people that are barren?

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