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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Well duh . . . no one expected Regnerus to reject his own work, no matter how bad it was. Just as obvious that you haven't read any of the criticisms laid against Regnerus. The strongest one is the way he labeled the parents in his 'study' -
    basically labeling a person as gay or lesbian if they had ever had sex with a same gender partner.
    He did not include very many families with long term stable relationships - the very type of opposite sex couples the was using as comparison. The study was paid for by a group that is openly anti-gay, the Witherspoon Institute. After months of fighting against FOIA requests for documentation, the Univ of Texas has released pages of documents on the study

    The Schumm 'study' was not even an actual study, rather it was Mr Schumm taking words from twelve books written about gay parenting and in many cases blatantly misrepresenting what was to be found in the books.

    ONE study, the one you criticise because the author is a lesbian, is just that
    - ONE paper out of many that go back to the 1970s. When looking at lots of academic papers and finding some that show bias, one should not automatically assume that ALL of the studies were poorly done. However, as so many on the right are only capable of binary thinking, that does seem to be a standard response. "One bad - ALL bad!"

    So because Regnerus and Schumm are quite outspoken in their 'hatred' of the gays one should not automatically assume their work is bad - but when the vast majority of experts in the field make negative statements - well . . . then maybe the non-experts should accept the knowledge,
    Regnerus was up front about his sample. Your cited studies were not.
    You didn't answer my question ... were you aware of the flaws in the study you cited before you cited it without noting the flaws? Let's have a couple good ones.
    I didn't understand that last sentence at all. Did you leave out a word or two somewhere?

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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Regnerus was up front about his sample. Your cited studies were not.
    You didn't answer my question ... were you aware of the flaws in the study you cited before you cited it without noting the flaws? Let's have a couple good ones.
    I didn't understand that last sentence at all. Did you leave out a word or two somewhere?
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    The only thing that irritates me is when lesbian or gay couples say stuff like, "We are going to raise little lesbian girls together." As if the kid doesnt have a choice and will naturally pick this. Why would 2 gay people want their kid to be the same sexuality as them or why would it matter to a parent in any way? Are they planning on having sex with the kid?
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    The only thing that irritates me is when lesbian or gay couples say stuff like, "We are going to raise little lesbian girls together." As if the kid doesnt have a choice and will naturally pick this. Why would 2 gay people want their kid to be the same sexuality as them or why would it matter to a parent in any way? Are they planning on having sex with the kid?
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    The only thing that irritates me is when lesbian or gay couples say stuff like, "We are going to raise little lesbian girls together." As if the kid doesnt have a choice and will naturally pick this. Why would 2 gay people want their kid to be the same sexuality as them or why would it matter to a parent in any way? Are they planning on having sex with the kid?
    Over the years I have known approximately 12 gay couples who have chosen to have children together, and none of them have ever said anything like this.

    have you met some who have?

    if so, I would put them in the same category as beauty pageant moms ..... having children as a vehicle to live out their own unfulfilled dreams ... which is a pretty unhealthy reason to have a child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    Over the years I have known approximately 12 gay couples who have chosen to have children together, and none of them have ever said anything like this.

    have you met some who have?

    if so, I would put them in the same category as beauty pageant moms ..... having children as a vehicle to live out their own unfulfilled dreams ... which is a pretty unhealthy reason to have a child.
    Ive heard lesbians say it a few times. Never gay dudes though. Dirty lesbians. :p
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Ive heard lesbians say it a few times. Never gay dudes though. Dirty lesbians. :p
    Could they have been joking? And would you object to a heterosexual couple saying "we're going to raise nice little heterosexual kids together"?
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Ive heard lesbians say it a few times. Never gay dudes though. Dirty lesbians. :p
    All of the gay couples I know who have chosen to have kids together are lesbians ... can't imagine any of them saying such a thing. I could imagine a few very immature gays I have known (both male and female, and IMHO possibly people who are trendily gay rather than genuinely so) saying such things ... but most of these can't sustain a relationship, and are not ready to be parents of any sort ... gay or straight.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Could they have been joking? And would you object to a heterosexual couple saying "we're going to raise nice little heterosexual kids together"?
    Perhaps they were. Just struck me as disgusting that one would purposefully look to take care of a kid they arent really blood related to and try to herd them into being into the same type of sex they are into. If a man walked into an adoption center and said "I am a straight male. I want to adopt and raise a straight daughter who likes males" that would be incredibly awkward and weird :p The parents/kids sexuality should never once come up or be a part of the adoption process basically.
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    Re: Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

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    Since when is 'wondering' about something intolerant? It simply means he doesn't know, and seeks the truth.

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