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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Can you provide evidence of this? Because the last time I checked, the Constitution says nothing about handgun manufacturers.

    I did a quick Google search and came up with nothing. Could you please provide the research for me to peruse?

    Please explain how a lawsuit to make gun manufacturers responsible is against the 2nd Amendment.

    She was not a candidate for Congress, she was a candidate for an Appeals court. Furthermore, the case regarding gun manufacturers dealt with illegally purchased guns, not legally purchased ones.

    As opposed to all the other lawyers who might be candidates in the future?

    You do realize how silly it is to call a lawyer "litigious", correct?


    Thats funny U couldn't find anything. Basic Wikipedia had this.....

    Halligan has argued four cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.[18]

    Halligan's name also was listed in 2009 as a possible nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court in a report by Nina Totenberg of National Public Radio.

    Colombia.....huh? Like Obama Huh?


    On May 26, 2010, legal blogger Ed Whelan reported that President Obama has placed Halligan on "the inside track" to be nominated to one of two vacancies on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.[20] Then, in July 2010, the Blog of Legal Times reported that two unidentified lawyers said agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation had interviewed them regarding Halligan, which is standard for federal judicial nominees and often is precursor to a nomination.[18] On September 29, 2010, Obama nominated Halligan to replace John G. Roberts.

    Halligan was renominated on June 11, 2012. Two more attempts to gain cloture on her confirmation failed, and on August 3, 2012 her nomination was again returned to the White House.[4] She was renominated on September 19, 2012.[5] Her nomination was again returned to the President on On January 2, 2013, due to the sine die adjournment of the Senate.

    On January 3, 2013, she was renominated to the same office. Her nomination was reported by the Senate Judiciary Committee on February 14, 2013, initially in a 10-8 vote, strictly along party lines.[6] However, Sen. Lindsey Graham later changed his vote to "pass," making the final committee vote 10-7.[23]

    On March 4, 2013, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid again filed a motion to invoke cloture on Halligan's nomination.[24] On March 6, 2013, cloture failed by a vote of 51 ayes to 41 nays.[25][26] According to Senator Charles E. Grassley one objection by Republicans to the nominee were based on a legal theory she advanced while Solicitor General of New York that "gun manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers contributed to a ‘public nuisance’ of illegal handguns in the state."[27]

    On March 22, 2013, Halligan requested that Obama withdraw her nomination to the D.C. Circuit.....snip~

    Caitlin Halligan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    She is married to the Son of the NY Times Food Critic. That would be Falcone. Although, the next time I would look a lil harder with your searches.

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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Can you provide evidence of this? Because the last time I checked, the Constitution says nothing about handgun manufacturers.

    I did a quick Google search and came up with nothing. Could you please provide the research for me to peruse?

    Please explain how a lawsuit to make gun manufacturers responsible is against the 2nd Amendment.

    She was not a candidate for Congress, she was a candidate for an Appeals court. Furthermore, the case regarding gun manufacturers dealt with illegally purchased guns, not legally purchased ones.

    As opposed to all the other lawyers who might be candidates in the future?

    You do realize how silly it is to call a lawyer "litigious", correct?
    They are plenty of lawyers who have nothing to do with lawsuits. It's a specialty. Just like criminal law or divorce. I personally don't care whether or not her statement applied to illegally purchased guns. Unless the gun manufacturer did something wrong? For which we already have plenty of laws on the books? Suing a gun manufacturer would be as ridiculous as suing Jim Beam because someone got drunk and killed someone drunk driving. (The Dram Act notwithstanding covers those responsible quite nicely.) As to how this view is anti-Second Amendment? It's just a backdoor attack.
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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nah, I told ya it wasn't me cuz if ya had thrown a stick by me. I would have beat ya with it. Then afterwards played like Weird Al Yankovic.



    Then made U.....Eat it!

    definitely you ... you had difficulty with comebacks back then too ... gotta go, but I'll catch up with you later .. FETCH!

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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Bori View Post
    definitely you ... you had difficulty with comebacks back then too ... gotta go, but I'll catch up with you later .. FETCH!
    WOOF WOOF !!

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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Thats funny U couldn't find anything. Basic Wikipedia had this.....

    Halligan has argued four cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.[18]

    Halligan's name also was listed in 2009 as a possible nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court in a report by Nina Totenberg of National Public Radio.

    Colombia.....huh? Like Obama Huh?


    On May 26, 2010, legal blogger Ed Whelan reported that President Obama has placed Halligan on "the inside track" to be nominated to one of two vacancies on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.[20] Then, in July 2010, the Blog of Legal Times reported that two unidentified lawyers said agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation had interviewed them regarding Halligan, which is standard for federal judicial nominees and often is precursor to a nomination.[18] On September 29, 2010, Obama nominated Halligan to replace John G. Roberts.

    Halligan was renominated on June 11, 2012. Two more attempts to gain cloture on her confirmation failed, and on August 3, 2012 her nomination was again returned to the White House.[4] She was renominated on September 19, 2012.[5] Her nomination was again returned to the President on On January 2, 2013, due to the sine die adjournment of the Senate.

    On January 3, 2013, she was renominated to the same office. Her nomination was reported by the Senate Judiciary Committee on February 14, 2013, initially in a 10-8 vote, strictly along party lines.[6] However, Sen. Lindsey Graham later changed his vote to "pass," making the final committee vote 10-7.[23]

    On March 4, 2013, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid again filed a motion to invoke cloture on Halligan's nomination.[24] On March 6, 2013, cloture failed by a vote of 51 ayes to 41 nays.[25][26] According to Senator Charles E. Grassley one objection by Republicans to the nominee were based on a legal theory she advanced while Solicitor General of New York that "gun manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers contributed to a ‘public nuisance’ of illegal handguns in the state."[27]

    On March 22, 2013, Halligan requested that Obama withdraw her nomination to the D.C. Circuit.....snip~

    Caitlin Halligan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    She is married to the Son of the NY Times Food Critic. That would be Falcone. Although, the next time I would look a lil harder with your searches.
    Nothing you posted from Wikipedia (which I read) had anything to do with any position she has taken opposite of the 2nd Amendment. Could you actually provide REAL research for me to browse?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    They are plenty of lawyers who have nothing to do with lawsuits.
    Of course I know this. But litigating IS one of the more visible aspects of the job, and is probably going to have been done by any judge who would be appointed to such an Appeals court. For you to argue against her on the basis of her being "litigious" (which, by the way, was her job as Soliciter General of New York) is incredibly silly.

    I personally don't care whether or not her statement applied to illegally purchased guns.
    It wasn't a statement, it was a court case she pursued on behalf of the state of New York, which was her job.

    Unless the gun manufacturer did something wrong? For which we already have plenty of laws on the books? Suing a gun manufacturer would be as ridiculous as suing Jim Beam because someone got drunk and killed someone drunk driving. (The Dram Act notwithstanding covers those responsible quite nicely.)
    We allow lawsuits for this kind of thing all the time. It's the job of the judge or jury to dismiss them.

    As to how this view is anti-Second Amendment? It's just a backdoor attack.
    In what way? Please describe how this has anything to do with a private citizen being able to own a gun for the purpose of assembling in a state militia for defense against foreign enemies.

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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Please describe how this has anything to do with a private citizen being able to own a gun for the purpose of assembling in a state militia for defense against foreign enemies.
    Nice question-begging. This is daft, which comes from it being deeply uninformed. Of course, being agenda-driven, that's not too surprising.
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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    NEW YORK (Reuters) - The White House on Friday admitted defeat on its choice of New York lawyer Caitlin Halligan for a judgeship on a powerful appeals court, withdrawing her nomination two weeks after Senate Republicans blocked her for the second time.

    President Barack Obama expressed anger that Republicans would not permit a Senate vote even as Halligan appeared to have the support of a majority of senators.



    "I am deeply disappointed that even after nearly two and a half years, a minority of senators continued to block a simple up-or-down vote on her nomination," he said in a statement.

    Halligan was nominated for the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, widely considered the second most influential U.S. court after the Supreme Court.

    Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska was the lone Republican to vote in Halligan's favor on March 6.

    Republicans said they were concerned about Halligan's legal "activism" during her time as New York's state solicitor general from 2001 to 2006.

    They zeroed in on arguments she made on behalf of the state that gun manufacturers should be held accountable for violent crimes committed with weapons they had made.

    Obama is the first president in 50 years who failed to make an appointment to the court during a full term. The 11-seat court has four vacancies, a situation Obama called "unacceptable" on Friday.....snip~

    Obama withdraws judicial nominee blocked twice by Republicans

    A MAJOR defeat for Obama!!!!! Not only is this a major defeat for Obama over his Appointment. But this a Major Victory for Pro Gun Peeps as all this time while we have all this news over the gun issue. Obama was trying to be slick.

    Here it is in black and white. As Obama has been trying to get this bitch appointed to the Court for the last 2 years. Way ahead of his Public Push for Gun Control and his Assault weapon and magazine ban. Now you know just how devious this guy can be.

    Although I am glad he gets this Dubious Honor of being the First President in the Last 50 years.....to FAIL in making an appointment to the Court during his Full Term. Lets give his azz a Standing Ovation.....okay maybe not. But some applause at the least!
    I don't see how the filibustering of an appointee with the support of a majority of the Senate is a great thing.

    Especially since Democratic Senators will remember this the next time a Republican is President and tries to get a judge appointed. I seriously doubt the GOP will have a supermajority in the Senate at that time.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Nice question-begging. This is daft, which comes from it being deeply uninformed. Of course, being agenda-driven, that's not too surprising.
    There's no begging the question there at all. All I'm doing is asking how suing gun manufacturers has anything to do with the 2nd Amendment as it was written. Could you please elaborate?

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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Nothing you posted from Wikipedia (which I read) had anything to do with any position she has taken opposite of the 2nd Amendment. Could you actually provide REAL research for me to browse?

    Of course I know this. But litigating IS one of the more visible aspects of the job, and is probably going to have been done by any judge who would be appointed to such an Appeals court. For you to argue against her on the basis of her being "litigious" (which, by the way, was her job as Soliciter General of New York) is incredibly silly.

    It wasn't a statement, it was a court case she pursued on behalf of the state of New York, which was her job.

    We allow lawsuits for this kind of thing all the time. It's the job of the judge or jury to dismiss them.

    In what way? Please describe how this has anything to do with a private citizen being able to own a gun for the purpose of assembling in a state militia for defense against foreign enemies.


    Okay, lets take the typical liberal long winded argument over semantics go with this one. While of course you focus just on the issue of gun manufacturers. To hinge upon all that you are talking about. As if this argument means anything now since she was dealt with and cast to the side. As to whether this woman is Pro gun or Anti gun. Or stands with the 2nd.

    Provide a link that she is in favor of the second Amendment. Can you show anywhere in her long industrious career where she has backed Pro gun legislation? Do you think a person who never takes cases for Pro gun rights. Does not want to defend Gun Rights. Is all about the Constitution?

    Course I don't think you can get past her Theory concerning Wholesalers and retailers. Perhaps the Word Retailers should have been a clue.....don't ya think? Do retailers manufacture guns?

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    Re: Obama Withdraws Judicial Nominee Blocked TWICE by Republicans.....

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't see how the filibustering of an appointee with the support of a majority of the Senate is a great thing.

    Especially since Democratic Senators will remember this the next time a Republican is President and tries to get a judge appointed. I seriously doubt the GOP will have a supermajority in the Senate at that time.
    I think the Repubs were saying just that when the Demos did with Juniors Appoinments. Course while looking to protect the 2nd down the road.

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