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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You're bringing up Bachman and factcheck.org links from a year ago?

    How embarrassing. I rest my case.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Please.. Just please stop already.. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    I agree. This is so f----ng boring!!

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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You're bringing up Bachman and factcheck.org links from a year ago?

    How embarrassing. I rest my case.
    Well saying these claims have been made over and over again but these "studies" i see no need to why a year old fact check is a "bad source".


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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    It sounds to me as if about half the bakery's employees will lose their jobs. The small corporation which employs one of my kids has cut many employees' hours because it can't afford to pay for their benefits. This isn't a good thing.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Please.. Just please stop already.. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    The freakish tea partiers just keep making fools of themselves in public.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Haha ohh please explain. Why pass a bill that is designed to fail. Are we getting into some conspiracy mumbo jumbo? Just admit it some of the right still dont accept that fact that the ACA is constitutional, and still believe in the draconian bull**** such as the death panels, that the gov is taking over healthcare, that its "socialist", oh and its "designed to fail".
    Insruance rates are going up, not down.

    We're not allowed to keep our policies, as we were told by The Messiah.

    If you own two businesses and each has 30 employees, they'll be added together, forcing you to provide government mandated health insurance for you employees.

    Thousands of full-time employees are losing their hours, so they're considered part time.

    Yeah, it's working GREAT!!
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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    People are going to be begging for repeal when the real pain comes in 2014

    Obamacare is a an absolute disaster
    If it was a complete disaster more senators would have voted for Ted Cruz's amendment.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    People are going to be begging for repeal when the real pain comes in 2014

    Obamacare is a an absolute disaster
    Considering the fact this amendment has no chance of passing its just a waste of time and nothing more than attempt to make voters think they want to repeal Obamacare.Its like with the Brady Bill.Republicans had plenty of chances After Bush was president to repeal it,they did not.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Haha ohh please explain. Why pass a bill that is designed to fail. Are we getting into some conspiracy mumbo jumbo? Just admit it some of the right still dont accept that fact that the ACA is constitutional, and still believe in the draconian bull**** such as the death panels, that the gov is taking over healthcare, that its "socialist", oh and its "designed to fail".
    Im not sure I would consider myself on the right but I am one that feels that ACA is unconstitutional regardless of what the supreme court ruled. Then again I believe the SC has been wrong in many instances threw out our history. As far as "death panels", they already exist both in the public sector and private sector health industries. Im not sure the ACA would be instituting any new ones but we already have them. Unless you have coverage that will cover absolutely everything including experimental treatments then someone has made the decision not to cover the treatment even in cases of terminal illnesses. My father who is on medicaid and suffers serious heart disease whose cardiologist strongly recommends a heart transplant is denied by the state. His cardiologist says he is being denied for a many reasons including, age, overall health, is a heavy smoker. It simply is not worth it to the state to spend close to a million dollars on his a transplant at this time. Someone makes that decision and that is what some call "death panels".

    As far as the effectiveness of the ACA I think it is still being decided and may take many many years for it to fully play out. My feeling is that it will not be nearly as effective or cheap as lawmakers promoted it and will only further add to our national debt. I hope I am wrong I really do hope that our health care improves with it but I dont hold a lot of faith.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    If it was a complete disaster more senators would have voted for Ted Cruz's amendment.
    But then they would have to admit that they were an idiot to have voted for Obamacare in the first place.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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