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    Reid guts Senate gun control bill

    enate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Tuesday he will not include a renewal of the federal assault weapons ban in a Senate gun control bill because it could not win even 40 votes on the Senate floo

    “Right now her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes," Reid told reporters on Tuesday. "That’s not 60. I have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues we talked about."
    Reid indicated a proposal sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) to expand background checks to cover private gun sales would not make it in the base bill, either.


    “There are a couple different background check proposals floating around,” Reid said. “All these issues are important and I’m going to do what I can to make sure we have a fair, sound debate on this but we can’t have it unless I have something that I can put on the floor to proceed to it.


    “I’m not going to try to put something on the floor that won’t succeed. I want something that will succeed,” he added.



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    I agree if assault weapon ban wont pass then at least put something that will pass on the floor. I hope the background checks pass. Hopefully they get some substantial to pass.


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    I agree if assault weapon ban wont pass then at least put something that will pass on the floor. I hope the background checks pass. Hopefully they get some substantial to pass.
    Whatever, if anything, might come out of the Senate, it has no chance of being passed through the House...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Wait a minute, this looks like a compromise to me. We must rise up in revolt. It must be all or nothing, never give in!!!

    Sorry, lost my mind there for a minute. I thought the end must be near. I am over it.

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    I really wish the focus could just stay on background checks, and strengthening the existing laws we have regarding gun accessability. There are plenty of laws and rules that can't be enforced because no one has been given the tools to enforce them. I hate adding more regulation to a problem that already has a mountain of inefficient regulation. Why not fix what's broken, instead of adding more things to be broken.
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    Re: Reid guts Senate gun control bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WWGWD View Post
    I really wish the focus could just stay on background checks, and strengthening the existing laws we have regarding gun accessability. There are plenty of laws and rules that can't be enforced because no one has been given the tools to enforce them. I hate adding more regulation to a problem that already has a mountain of inefficient regulation. Why not fix what's broken, instead of adding more things to be broken.
    I believe Reid is planning on bringing up background checks as a separate bill later, and Feinstein will offer an amendment to limit magazine capacity as an amendment...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I agree if assault weapon ban wont pass then at least put something that will pass on the floor. I hope the background checks pass. Hopefully they get some substantial to pass.
    Not while the NRA owns the republican party. Sorry state of Washington for the children of AMerica.....so much for "pro-life".
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I believe Reid is planning on bringing up background checks as a separate bill later, and Feinstein will offer an amendment to limit magazine capacity as an amendment...
    Meh, lately, I'm not at all convinced it will happen. Still doesn't really address any of the current laws being impeded, and I don't hold out a lot of hope on that unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WWGWD View Post
    Meh, lately, I'm not at all convinced it will happen. Still doesn't really address any of the current laws being impeded, and I don't hold out a lot of hope on that unfortunately.
    Neither does anyone else, as it's predicted any attempt at such an amendment would garner less than 30 votes. I agree that if laws already on the books were enforced, it would be a much better road to follow...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Not while the NRA owns the republican party. Sorry state of Washington for the children of AMerica.....so much for "pro-life".
    ... Reid aborts and you magically turn "pro-life"... funny stuff.

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    Re: Reid guts Senate gun control bill

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    Wait a minute, this looks like a compromise to me. We must rise up in revolt. It must be all or nothing, never give in!!!

    Sorry, lost my mind there for a minute. I thought the end must be near. I am over it.
    WHY would people 'compromise' on this issue? If 6 people in this country caused car wrecks that killed people because they were talking on a cell phone or texting, would you accept a ban on cell phones? Would you think that even made sense for someone to propose? The fact is democrats are (by his own ADMISSION) rushing headlong to pass "SOMETHING!!! ANYTHING!!! We just gotta pass SOMETHING!!!" Why? To what end?

    Adam Lanza killed his mother to take her licensed, background checked, registered firearms. He used a rifle and several handguns. He walked unhindered for 10 minutes freely shooting and reloading. Magazine capacity (which read admits wont pass) wouldnt have made a difference. Assault weapon bans (which Reid admits wont pass) wouldnt have made a difference. Using THAT incident to rush to pass moronic gun laws that are PROVEN to not work...well thats just plain stupid, isnt it? And you think people should 'compromise' for the sake of passing more stupid legislation? Not hard to guess which side of the fence you land on.

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