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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    What happened to this hero is awful, but that doesn't give you the right to make up crap. Simply pointing out that vets can have PTSD isn't the same as calling them the primary threat to america.
    Are you unaware that DHS has issued multiple memos citing military affiliation as a primary factor when looking for threats?

    It might take a second to load but try this - http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf and if you don't feel like browsing the whole thing just skip to page 7 of the report which is 8 of the PDF.

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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'm really not sure why this is shocking to anybody. It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America and a wounded vet is exponentially more likely to have PTSD thus becoming an even bigger threat. Have you all forgotten that the schmucks that are running this show are the same ones who spit on men returning from Viet Nam?
    Its kinda funny and kinda say how when "going in" military are honored. But culture is swinging more and more to fear military after they are "coming out". People willing to sign off for 4 years fresh = fanfare and celebrations. People that have seen the war with their own eyes = be scared of that dude. He might be a terrorist.
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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Whenever the TSA comes into question, my train of thought goes like this:

    First: The reason it was made:



    Then the justification:


    And then, the result:


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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    a contrarian perspective:
    the TSA screener has a duty to assure that every passenger who gets a pass is absolutely not going to present a danger to the flight
    these screeners are constantly tested with artificial threats to see if they make accurate assessments
    in that light, there was only one way to determine that the passenger was not in possession of dangerous devices. a thorough check was made
    that the passenger was a marine should not cause the screener to perform his duty any differently
    that the passenger has physical impairments should not cause the screener to do his duty any differently

    what many view as disrespect of an injured marine i see as a diligent federal employee performing his duties as they have been assigned. if men in uniform should get a free pass, then make that happen. it will lighten the load of the screeners
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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    a contrarian perspective:
    the TSA screener has a duty to assure that every passenger who gets a pass is absolutely not going to present a danger to the flight
    these screeners are constantly tested with artificial threats to see if they make accurate assessments
    in that light, there was only one way to determine that the passenger was not in possession of dangerous devices. a thorough check was made
    that the passenger was a marine should not cause the screener to perform his duty any differently
    that the passenger has physical impairments should not cause the screener to do his duty any differently

    what many view as disrespect of an injured marine i see as a diligent federal employee performing his duties as they have been assigned. if men in uniform should get a free pass, then make that happen. it will lighten the load of the screeners
    You would, while other TSA agents sat around and didn't even get up to help this man through the process. They didn't care that he could hardly stand up, and then in pain no less. I see how you feel about this marine.
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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Are people mad because a person was treated this way or because a marine was treated this way?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Whenever the TSA comes into question, my train of thought goes like this:

    First: The reason it was made:



    Then the justification:


    And then, the result:

    What does airport security have to do with abolishing private property? They inspected the wheelchair, they didn't confiscate it for the motherland.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Are you unaware that DHS has issued multiple memos citing military affiliation as a primary factor when looking for threats?

    It might take a second to load but try this - http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf and if you don't feel like browsing the whole thing just skip to page 7 of the report which is 8 of the PDF.
    I'm very aware of that memo. I read it back when it was first published. But in no way does it ever say, as you claimed, "It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America" That's just crazy talk. It only points out that it can be linked to some forms of extremism, it points out that extremist groups look at recruiting military members because of they're knowledge of war and military tactics etc, .

    Your assertion that they are being labeled a "primary threat" is unfounded. One memo that mentions it does not back up your crazy claim.
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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    a contrarian perspective:
    the TSA screener has a duty to assure that every passenger who gets a pass is absolutely not going to present a danger to the flight
    these screeners are constantly tested with artificial threats to see if they make accurate assessments
    in that light, there was only one way to determine that the passenger was not in possession of dangerous devices. a thorough check was made
    that the passenger was a marine should not cause the screener to perform his duty any differently
    that the passenger has physical impairments should not cause the screener to do his duty any differently

    what many view as disrespect of an injured marine i see as a diligent federal employee performing his duties as they have been assigned. if men in uniform should get a pass, then make that happen. it will lighten the load of the screeners
    And the TSA screeners routinely fail, seemingly through the absence of common sense.
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    Re: TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I'm very aware of that memo. I read it back when it was first published. But in no way does it ever say, as you claimed, "It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America" That's just crazy talk. It only points out that it can be linked to some forms of extremism, it points out that extremist groups look at recruiting military members because of they're knowledge of war and military tactics etc, .

    Your assertion that they are being labeled a "primary threat" is unfounded. One memo that mentions it does not back up your crazy claim.
    The original claim that veterans are a primary threat was made by Big Sis herself and, to the best of my knowledge, she has never retracted it.
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