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    Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Write

    Much of the world has long assumed that Dick Cheney longed for war in Iraq in order to gain reliable control of the nation's oil resources. But it's not often that evidence has emerged of Cheney himself talking in that vein. A new reflection by Bush speechwriter David Frum in Newsweek does just that:
    I was less impressed by Chalabi than were some others in the Bush administration. However, since one of those “others” was Vice President Cheney, it didn’t matter what I thought. In 2002, Chalabi joined the annual summer retreat of the American Enterprise Institute near Vail, Colorado. He and Cheney spent long hours together, contemplating the possibilities of a Western-oriented Iraq: an additional source of oil, an alternative to U.S. dependency on an unstable-looking Saudi Arabia.


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    Hmm Cheney mostly worried about the oil in Iraq... You wouldnt say


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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    And all of that means?

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Hmm Cheney mostly worried about the oil in Iraq... You wouldnt say [/INDENT]
    He wasn't so concerned about democracy as Wolfowitz was. Personally, I think Cheney's interest would have been better to aim toward, even though it has yet to materialize in the slightest. That way, the United States could have at least profited from the war, unlike it is now. War for defense of allies from WMD (which as we know was not so dangerous) and securing oil is better than chasing the phantom of democracy in a region that has to create those institutions itself.
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Hmm Cheney mostly worried about the oil in Iraq... You wouldnt say [/INDENT]
    Wowser! Who'd a thunk it? The Iraq War could have been about OIL? That would mean Big Energy might have been the money behind the push for war. No way. That would be un-American. Un-democratic. Our MEDIA isn't for sale, but it does hire a lot of CIA assetts. We wanted their sand, scorpions, and Husseins, maybe? What about all those dead people we left laying about in Iraq? Deformed? Birth defects? OILman. What a coincidence. These facts are ten years late, but it's OK, the believers are not going to change their minds. That reflects truly good work by the Mass Media, perhaps?

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Here's an interesting read...

    " The lies of two Iraqi spies were central to the claim - at the heart of the UK and US decision to go to war in Iraq - that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. But even before the fighting started, intelligence from highly-placed sources was available suggesting he did not, Panorama has learned... "

    BBC News - Iraq: The spies who fooled the world
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    The line libs use is we wanted to take over Iraq oil when the truth was we wanted to protect the flow of oil which we rely on, huge difference.

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The line libs use is we wanted to take over Iraq oil when the truth was we wanted to protect the flow of oil which we rely on, huge difference.
    Probably just a coincidence, but that would be Iraqi OIL under Iraqi sand. If Big Energy wants it, it should pay the bills to procure it. You know, just like payin' a pimp, I presumes? They used the taxpayers money and they ain't the taxpayers, we are.

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Probably just a coincidence, but that would be Iraqi OIL under Iraqi sand. If Big Energy wants it, it should pay the bills to procure it. You know, just like payin' a pimp, I presumes? They used the taxpayers money and they ain't the taxpayers, we are.
    If enviros would let us drill here we could walk away from that cess pool.

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If enviros would let us drill here we could walk away from that cess pool.
    Petro-Energy is the cesspool. Global Warming says to flush that industry and become renewable, quickly. It is not a coincidence that we have not been able to establish a realistic Energy policy that also mitigates Global Warming. It is good business for existing big business not to change the status quo, and you are defending the status quo's wars with that type of thinking. We shouldn't be drilling here either. Renewable is practical and economical and is stalled by an entrenched energy infrastructure that also owns politicians.

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Hmm Cheney mostly worried about the oil in Iraq... You wouldnt say [/INDENT]
    Along with Cheney's Energy Task Force Report in 2001 titled, Strategic Energy Challenges for the 21st Century, where the task force recommends military actions in Iraq to prevent the destablization of oil prices, noting that Saddam would withhold oil as a weapon.

    There is more evidence that the war was about oil than there is evidence it was about WMD.
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