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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Saddam was always a threat to the oil supply in the mid east, if not at that precise moment then in the future when he waited out the UN and got back to business. Cancer in remission is still a threat.
    Wow, absolutes and bad analogies along with ignoring the real situation in 03. No matter what you believe, he was not threatening "the flow" in 03, you are still confusing one decade for another.

    The "flow" out of Iraq was the target of the neocons, and they got their wish.....at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives and TRILLIONS of US tax dollars, with nearly no benefit to the US.
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

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    Welcome to geopolitics. Exits from geopolitics are located upon death.
    That doesn't mean we have to turn your back on it. If we don't strive to be better than what we are, what is the purpose?
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Oil is the life blood of our economy, if you threaten that you have to be dealt with, that is just reality. If you enviros would let us drill our own oil we wouldn't have to be involved in the mid east so you are really the ones cavalier about sacrificing our young men and women. You would rather have wars for oil than drill here.
    What you are saying is oil is more important than human life. Sorry, wasn't raised that way.

    We have drilled here, and since 1971 our consumption has been greater than our production no matter who was in control of the government. Did you think we could be wasteful forever and not use up our finite supply of affordable oil? We are 4% of the world's population and use 25% of the world's oil. You are just completely ignoring reality.
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Wow, absolutes and bad analogies along with ignoring the real situation in 03. No matter what you believe, he was not threatening "the flow" in 03, you are still confusing one decade for another.

    The "flow" out of Iraq was the target of the neocons, and they got their wish.....at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives and TRILLIONS of US tax dollars, with nearly no benefit to the US.
    Saddam was always a threat to the region after he invaded Kuwait thus always a threat to the flow of oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What you are saying is oil is more important than human life. Sorry, wasn't raised that way.

    We have drilled here, and since 1971 our consumption has been greater than our production no matter who was in control of the government. Did you think we could be wasteful forever and not use up our finite supply of affordable oil? We are 4% of the world's population and use 25% of the world's oil. You are just completely ignoring reality.
    You are the one saying oil is more important to human life when you refuse to let us drill in places like Anwr, off the coast of Calif, Florida etc not to mention your anti fracking stance. Your position is war not wells. As for our use of oil you can only get the 25% number by factoring in countries so poor they can't own cars or even feed themselves, is that what you want for us?

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You are the one saying oil is more important to human life when you refuse to let us drill in places like Anwr, off the coast of Calif, Florida etc not to mention your anti fracking stance. Your position is war not wells. As for our use of oil you can only get the 25% number by factoring in countries so poor they can't own cars or even feed themselves, is that what you want for us?
    You just completely ignore that oil is bought and sold on the world market. Unless you plan to socialize US oil companies as the Socialists want to do, all new oil produced here goes into the world market, and 60% of the worlds affordable is in the middle east, unless you factor in the wars to keep it flowing.
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Saddam was always a threat to the region after he invaded Kuwait thus always a threat to the flow of oil.
    You are ALWAYS going to believe this nonsense, NEVER are you going to stop substituting the 90's for the 2000's, you are ALWAYS going to keep believing the the neocon echo chamber that was Bush's cabinet in 2001. His "threat" in 2003 to the "oil flow" from Kuwait was a phantom, just as was his imagined WMD's and connections to AQ.

    But this is fine, this meme will ALWAYS peg neocons (and their supporters) to their greatest leadership folly evah. This will keep them out of positions of real power, probably forever.

    Hold tight to it, by ALL means.
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You just completely ignore that oil is bought and sold on the world market. Unless you plan to socialize US oil companies as the Socialists want to do, all new oil produced here goes into the world market, and 60% of the worlds affordable is in the middle east, unless you factor in the wars to keep it flowing.
    You just can't grasp the law of supply and demand can you.

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You just can't grasp the law of supply and demand can you.
    It is the rule law of supply and demand that I keep trying to explain to you.
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is the rule law of supply and demand that I keep trying to explain to you.
    The problem is you Want to focus strictly on the demand side, the supply part of the equation eludes you.

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