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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    And all of that means?
    ...basically nothing except to those with BDS. I mean why else would put any worth in an article from David Frum.

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you support a country interfering with how another country manages its property, if they have a bigger stick? Or, not? Simple question.
    Finally, a question.

    The simple answer is, maybe. History of the World, Part 2. (Sorry Mr. Brooks)

    That's why it's important to have a big stick, if not the biggest.

    For example, I would have no problem using such a stick if another country was chosing to massacre it's citizens. That's a good use of a big stick.

    I would have no problem using such a stick if another country was chosing to use it's property to inflict pain, suffering, and death on other countries. That too is a good use of a big stick.

    I would have a problem using such a stick to interfere with another country, just because it could be done. That would be a bad use of a big stick.

    Does that answer your question?

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Finally, a question.

    The simple answer is, maybe. History of the World, Part 2. (Sorry Mr. Brooks)

    That's why it's important to have a big stick, if not the biggest.

    For example, I would have no problem using such a stick if another country was chosing to massacre it's citizens. That's a good use of a big stick.

    I would have no problem using such a stick if another country was chosing to use it's property to inflict pain, suffering, and death on other countries. That too is a good use of a big stick.

    I would have a problem using such a stick to interfere with another country, just because it could be done. That would be a bad use of a big stick.

    Does that answer your question?

    No, you successfully avoided answering the question as to the subject of the thread. Previously you said what we did in Iraq to control their property has been done historically by those that carry a big stick. I am asking if you personally support that action in Iraq that you say has been the acceptable norm throughout history?
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, you successfully avoided answering the question as to the subject of the thread. Previously you said what we did in Iraq to control their property has been done historically by those that carry a big stick. I am asking if you personally support that action in Iraq that you say has been the acceptable norm throughout history?
    I've posted what I wrote. I am not responsible for your inability to comprehend what I have now stated twice in writting.

    You have asked another question, this time involving Iraq. Do you understand that your question presupposes we invaded Iraq simply because we could?

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I've posted what I wrote. I am not responsible for your inability to comprehend what I have now stated twice in writting.

    You have asked another question, this time involving Iraq. Do you understand that your question presupposes we invaded Iraq simply because we could?
    Only if you ignore the OP and the thread discussion. The reason for the invasion was the oil, which you formerly suggested was an historically acceptable thing to do.
    But you refuse to state whether you personally support that historically acceptable thing to do. Why?
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only if you ignore the OP and the thread discussion. The reason for the invasion was the oil, which you formerly suggested was an historically acceptable thing to do.
    But you refuse to state whether you personally support that historically acceptable thing to do. Why?
    Gee whiz. You asked what gives a country the right to interfere. I wrote big stick wins.

    Frankly, Iraq at one time decided to murder and maim to get control of close to half the Worlds oil supply. The World said guess again. I have no problem with that.

    Play nice, or get hit with big stick. History of the world. Deal with it.

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Gee whiz. You asked what gives a country the right to interfere. I wrote big stick wins.

    Frankly, Iraq at one time decided to murder and maim to get control of close to half the Worlds oil supply. The World said guess again. I have no problem with that.

    Play nice, or get hit with big stick. History of the world. Deal with it.


    I don't know about you but I don't condone my country committing immoral acts in my name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't know about you but I don't condone my country committing immoral acts in my name.
    Of course you condone your country committing immoral acts in your name, as long as YOU get to decide what is moral and immoral.

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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Of course you condone your country committing immoral acts in your name, as long as YOU get to decide what is moral and immoral.

    We all decide what is moral and what is immoral. I think killing others for control of their property is immoral, its just the way I was raised I guess.
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    Re: Dick Cheney, Ahmed Chalabi Contemplated Value Of Iraqi Oil To U.S., David Frum Wr

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We all decide what is moral and what is immoral. I think killing others for control of their property is immoral, its just the way I was raised I guess.
    Well, I think projecting to denegrate others is a pretty serious character flaw. I guess that's just the way I was raised.

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