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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Eynon View Post
    so you believe legal gun ownership should be subsidized by the state?
    The governor also was planning to sign a bill reviving user fees for gun purchasers needing background checks. Colorado charged $10 background-check fees more than a decade ago, but the fees were dropped. The Colorado Bureau of Investigation currently picks up the tab checking prospective gun owners.
    We pay boat fees and recreation fees. Why not pay to have a background check,instead of letting citizens NOT owning guns pay for it?
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Auto companies? Auto deaths and injuries far exceed those from guns. Obama must mandate insurance.


    Hardly. That's a bit of an apple to oranges comparison, isn't it?
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I should have expected that you would see no difference between a state sales tax on a TV (or any other purchase, including a gun) and a specific targetted fee charged for a BG check. Why not do BG checks for buying knives, hammers and baseball bats?
    Here's the "tax" you want to scream about.

    The governor also was planning to sign a bill reviving user fees for gun purchasers needing background checks. Colorado charged $10 background-check fees more than a decade ago, but the fees were dropped. The Colorado Bureau of Investigation currently picks up the tab checking prospective gun owners.
    It's a user fee. Why should NON gun owners be required to subsidize gun background checks?
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    I believe the sale of a product from a corporation that causes more injuries and deaths in this nation should be taxed.....and that the monies can used to pay for those without insurance to be treated.
    em ok...is that a no then? my point was I'm ok with buyers financing the background checks so the state doesn't have too.

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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    It's a user fee. Why should NON gun owners be required to subsidize gun background checks?
    that was my point!

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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Eynon View Post
    em ok...is that a no then? my point was I'm ok with buyers financing the background checks so the state doesn't have too.
    Me, too.
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

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    Seems like a good law to me and a common sense law, but i know im gonna get attacked for saying that from the right. Oh well
    background checks are fine by me depending on the actual details

    the mag/clip/ammo limits are stupid, a waste of time and just for show.

    large clips/mags/ammo will still be available to criminals because they dont care about the laws. Clips.mags are easily made.
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    background checks are fine by me depending on the actual details

    the mag/clip/ammo limits are stupid, a waste of time and just for show.

    large clips/mags/ammo will still be available to criminals because they dont care about the laws. Clips.mags are easily made.
    Which ups the charges against criminals caught using them and maybe puts them behind bars for a lot longer.
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    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    The USSC is an arm of the government. (Appointees are picked by the President and his immediate stuff remember, Even if picked by administrations before) Seems like a no brainier, that if you apart of the government, you will strive to support it. Remember the Dred Scott vs. Sanford case? They were WRONG about that ruling.
    The United States Supreme Court decided 7–2 against Scott, finding that neither he nor any other person of African ancestry could claim citizenship in the United States, and therefore Scott could not bring suit in federal court under diversity of citizenship rules. Moreover, Scott's temporary residence outside Missouri did not bring about his emancipation under the Missouri Compromise, which the court ruled unconstitutional as it would improperly deprive Scott's owner of his legal property.
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    You do realize the USSC ruled that governments have the right to regulate firearms...
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Here's the "tax" you want to scream about.



    It's a user fee. Why should NON gun owners be required to subsidize gun background checks?
    Why should non-parents of school age children be required to subsidize public schools?
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