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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    But having citizens pay for IDs to vote, that you'll fight to the death over.
    Yes, because it's not necessary and it used to keep the poor from voting.
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WRONG. The "simplest" solution is like how all other law enforcemnt costs are paid for, using general tax revenue. This "service" is not only to protect gun owners, it is to protect the general public. If you need a "good guy" check then do it ONCE, for all state residents and place the result ("GUN OK") on their valid, state issued, photo ID. If you are not imposing a "user fee" for each traffic stop, 911 call or firefighting/EMS call then why impose them on legal gun purchases?

    Because I pay taxes when I buy a TV. Why are gun buyers exempt?
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Gee, better roads, schools, bridges, or lower taxes. I take the former.
    so you believe legal gun ownership should be subsidized by the state?

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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Yes, because it's not necessary and it used to keep the poor from voting.
    Yes. And all of these laws are intended, a piece at a time, to keep citizens-- and especially the poor-- from exercising their right to keep and bear arms. It is merely another form of disenfranchisement.

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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Because I pay taxes when I buy a TV. Why are gun buyers exempt?
    You pay sales tax when buying a TV-- what, nine or ten percent?-- from a retail business. You don't pay any taxes when you buy a used TV from a yard sale.

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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Yes. And all of these laws are intended, a piece at a time, to keep citizens-- and especially the poor-- from exercising their right to keep and bear arms. It is merely another form of disenfranchisement.
    How so? There are no guns being confiscated, no mention of stopping the sale of guns for hunters, target shooters and those in marksman competition. This wild-eyed swing into terror is not working anymore on America. You can still have your guns, or you can rant about the false accusations of gun confiscation. Either way, your opinion is the minority in America.
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    You pay sales tax when buying a TV-- what, nine or ten percent?-- from a retail business. You don't pay any taxes when you buy a used TV from a yard sale.
    I don't use the TV for anything but entertainment. Taxes are needed. The pleasure to own a gun is a taxing situation. See?
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Eynon View Post
    so you believe legal gun ownership should be subsidized by the state?
    I believe the sale of a product from a corporation that causes more injuries and deaths in this nation should be taxed.....and that the monies can used to pay for those without insurance to be treated.
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Because I pay taxes when I buy a TV. Why are gun buyers exempt?
    I should have expected that you would see no difference between a state sales tax on a TV (or any other purchase, including a gun) and a specific targetted fee charged for a BG check. Why not do BG checks for buying knives, hammers and baseball bats?
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    Re: Gov. John Hickenlooper To Sign Gun Control Measures Wednesday

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    I believe the sale of a product from a corporation that causes more injuries and deaths in this nation should be taxed.....and that the monies can used to pay for those without insurance to be treated.
    Auto companies? Auto deaths and injuries far exceed those from guns. Obama must mandate insurance.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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