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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What I found amazing was that President Bush thought Iraq was populated with a homogenous group of Muslims , he didn't realize there was animosity between the Sunni and the Shia, which was the major cause of the civil war in 2007.
    Dubya didn't even know the capital of Canada, let alone that.
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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    At no point in the article does Wolfowitz say that invasion was the wrong choice.
    Talk about hanging on a thread.

    "OK so everything post invasion and everything it lead to was disaster after disaster, mistake after mistake, but the invasion itself was still a good idea!"

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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What I found amazing was that President Bush thought Iraq was populated with a homogenous group of Muslims , he didn't realize there was animosity between the Sunni and the Shia, which was the major cause of the civil war in 2007.
    That's ridiculous. Could you honestly believe that the president was not briefed on the situation in the country and its relevant history?


    I'd add: disbanding the Baath party and excluding them from government was a bad move. It seems that the US overestimated the social capital still alive in Iraq and found that everyone who was not a crony had been killed, leaving only bad options for staffing the transitional government.

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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Iraq was a huge mistake. Besides the countless lives lost and the lives that are now destroyed by war, nothing has changed.
    FGM is illegal
    Honor killings are illegal
    Women have basic human rights
    Women are allowed to vote and be part of society
    Iraq is no longer in violation of 17 ch7 unscrs
    Iraq no longer fires on no-fly zones created to prevent further genocide
    The Kurds are not suffering genocide
    The Marsh Arabs are not suffering genocide
    Food-for-oil is not being sold, causing the starvation of 400k children
    Iraq is not invading neighbors
    No more government rape palaces
    No more mass slaughters in paranoid fits of rage
    No more sanctions
    No more fake WMD program
    International development projects
    Civil rights


    These are a few of the changes.

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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    A moment's reflection reveals who the wrongly named "Neocons" are, what their purpose is and what their purpose will always remain. Who knows what was in it for the far left leaning globalist Bushes.

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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's ridiculous. Could you honestly believe that the president was not briefed on the situation in the country and its relevant history?
    Yes, I do.
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    I'd add: disbanding the Baath party and excluding them from government was a bad move. It seems that the US overestimated the social capital still alive in Iraq and found that everyone who was not a crony had been killed, leaving only bad options for staffing the transitional government.

    I agree.

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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    [QUOTE=CanadaJohn;1061583074]The major problem with the conduct of the war in Iraq was the actions of Paul Bremer after the fall of Saddam. Bush and Cheney were right, the people of Iraq welcomed the US soldiers with open arms and cheered them as liberators. .
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    Yeah, Bremer doesn't fare too well in hindsight.
    I think the occupation got off on the wrong foot by declaring Bremer a "viceroy".
    Geez, the word viceroy reeks of western colonialism.
    Administrator would have been a better term.
    I would also say that Bremer's poor decisions weren't made in a vacuum.
    I'm sure GWB administration higher-ups signed off on his moves.
    Iraq just ended up being a microcosm of the middle-east and US involvement therein.
    Any actions we may take will probably produce an unacceptable downside.
    To hell with the middle-east.

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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Iraq was a huge mistake. Besides the countless lives lost and the lives that are now destroyed by war, nothing has changed. Unless you want to count the death of a has-been dictator who at least kept his people in check. It was like the Bush Administration took a 2 trillion dollar dump and flushed it down a ginormous toilet.
    And the dung is still swirling down the drain.

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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    "These are a few of the changes."
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    Those are all really great alleged changes.
    But I'm an America first kind of guy.
    Those alleged changes didn't help America one bit.
    Ahmidinejad visits Iraq and gets the rock-star treatment.
    US officials sneak in under cover of darkness.
    Yeah, Sadaam and his gang are gone, but the murderous terrorist bombings continue.
    The price the USA paid for a pyrrhic victory in the ME was too great.

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    Re: 10 Years On, Paul Wolfowitz Admits U.S. Bungled in Iraq

    Wolfowitz was a HUGE promoter of the wr in Iraq.

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