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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Christie's lucky because any black person intelligent enough to know that it wasn't meant as a racist remark will be/vote Republican anyway.

    So he upsets the hood rats who vote Democrat no matter what. Big whoop.

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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

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    He seems more genuine that way, he calls it what he sees it.
    Which used to be a reason that conservatives loved him, when he was being critical of the Obama administration. Once he "called it like he saw it" on Hurricane Sandy, they flipped their ****. They only want honesty when it fits their agenda.
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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Christie's lucky because any black person intelligent enough to know that it wasn't meant as a racist remark will be/vote Republican anyway.

    So he upsets the hood rats who vote Democrat no matter what. Big whoop.
    So, what Gipper is suggesting here that the vast majority of black people aren't intelligent enough to know that, since the vast majority vote Democrat.

    And Cephus "likes" this sentiment.

    Tell us more about your thoughts of the intelligence of black people, Gipper.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here's the deal. It's not that Christie is racist. He isn't. It's not that he's stupid either. He isn't. Let me explain.

    In the South, the term "boy" is derogatory, because a lot of white people used to use the term in that fashion when talking to black people. But there are a lot of white people in the North that don't see "boy" in that context. Being from Michigan, I used that word a lot, and of course, there was no intent there to use it in a derogatory way. It is used commonly all the time in the North. "Boy, is it hot out today". "Boy, the Detroit Tigers kicked ass today". "Boy, you better get your act together". Nothing racial in these statements. Of course, the North isn't the South either, but guess what? Christie is from the North. If he was from the South, then due to the history of the usage of the word "boy" there, we might be able to accuse him of something. But he isn't. His use of the word is strictly in a Northern context. In other words, the man is innocent.

    Let me tell you what the real problem is here. Many on the left see Christie as an opponent who could give him trouble in 2016, so the mud slinging is starting early. I think Christie should have seen this coming, but now that he has seen it, he is going to really need to watch himself between now and the next election. Dirty politics is here again, but did it ever really go away? LOL.

    Article is here.
    Let me be further real with you.

    I grew up and spent my whole life in the south, granted one of the more northern "southern" states. "Boy" absolutely WAS a racially termed derogatory word in the past, and there absolutely are SOME who are generally older that still use it as such today. However, the vast amount of times I heard the term used in a derogatory way it was more to age/maturity rather than race. It was often used along the same way one would use kid. I can't speak to the deep south, but in the south I grew up in the use of "Boy" in a derogatory or demeaning way only tended to have a connotation of race in the instances where outside people were TELLING us that it did. At least around the places of Virginia I grew up, "boy" was a term meant to degrade and devalue based on age or maturity, not on race. That may've been different 40 years earlier, but that was what I've seen for the past couple decades.

    On a personal level, it's actually a term of endearment coming from my 15 years older Uncle. Ever since I can remember, up until today with me being almost 30, he would routinely refer to me as "Boy". My best bet is, with him being a Simpsons fan, that it grew out of Bart/Homer.

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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here's the deal. It's not that Christie is racist. He isn't. It's not that he's stupid either. He isn't. Let me explain.

    In the South, the term "boy" is derogatory, because a lot of white people used to use the term in that fashion when talking to black people. But there are a lot of white people in the North that don't see "boy" in that context. Being from Michigan, I used that word a lot, and of course, there was no intent there to use it in a derogatory way. It is used commonly all the time in the North. "Boy, is it hot out today". "Boy, the Detroit Tigers kicked ass today". "Boy, you better get your act together". Nothing racial in these statements. Of course, the North isn't the South either, but guess what? Christie is from the North. If he was from the South, then due to the history of the usage of the word "boy" there, we might be able to accuse him of something. But he isn't. His use of the word is strictly in a Northern context. In other words, the man is innocent.

    Let me tell you what the real problem is here. Many on the left see Christie as an opponent who could give him trouble in 2016, so the mud slinging is starting early. I think Christie should have seen this coming, but now that he has seen it, he is going to really need to watch himself between now and the next election. Dirty politics is here again, but did it ever really go away? LOL.

    Article is here.
    No it's not! You bought in to that propaganda way too much.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Using the term "boy" towards an African-American man CAN have extremely derogatory connotations when used in certain ways. THIS was not one of them. "Boy" was used in the past to make reference to AA's as being "less than a man" in the eyes of racist whites primarily in the South. It is still used by racists today in the same manner. To say that Christie was referring to the man in this way does injustice to situations in which it really IS used as a derogatory racist comment.
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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Let me be further real with you.

    I grew up and spent my whole life in the south, granted one of the more northern "southern" states. "Boy" absolutely WAS a racially termed derogatory word in the past, and there absolutely are SOME who are generally older that still use it as such today. However, the vast amount of times I heard the term used in a derogatory way it was more to age/maturity rather than race. It was often used along the same way one would use kid. I can't speak to the deep south, but in the south I grew up in the use of "Boy" in a derogatory or demeaning way only tended to have a connotation of race in the instances where outside people were TELLING us that it did. At least around the places of Virginia I grew up, "boy" was a term meant to degrade and devalue based on age or maturity, not on race. That may've been different 40 years earlier, but that was what I've seen for the past couple decades.

    On a personal level, it's actually a term of endearment coming from my 15 years older Uncle. Ever since I can remember, up until today with me being almost 30, he would routinely refer to me as "Boy". My best bet is, with him being a Simpsons fan, that it grew out of Bart/Homer.
    My dad called my brothers and I boy our wholes lives. I'm 44 and I still get called boy by people older than me. It's not to degrade, or devalue me because of my age.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    I usually use bitch, not boy.
    LIKE. A lot. That should be your signature.


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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No it's not! You bought in to that propaganda way too much.
    I've lived my last 40 years in the South, and I have seen it used that way quite often.
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    Re: Chris Christie Uses Term 'Boy' In Heated Exchange At African-American Church

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Using the term "boy" towards an African-American man CAN have extremely derogatory connotations when used in certain ways. THIS was not one of them. "Boy" was used in the past to make reference to AA's as being "less than a man" in the eyes of racist whites primarily in the South. It is still used by racists today in the same manner. To say that Christie was referring to the man in this way does injustice to situations in which it really IS used as a derogatory racist comment.
    Had to quote this post to like it enough. Don't normally say this to you, but well said. CAN Boy be used in a racist manner? Absolutely. But when you label situations where it's clearly not the case as "racist" all you actually do is devalue the notion for when it ACTUALLY is applicable.

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