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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    How cynical. The point I made was the issue, that being how can you be a man of the people while denying people their right to collectively bargain? How can you be a man of the people when you make law that what is left of your bargaining power is limited to a negotiation of 1 or 2% wage increase with any additional increase being bestowed upon them at the political elite's sole discretion? Not much of a people person if you ask me.

    Not much of a pro-American worker which makes this nation great, person.
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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    That pro-American worker thing is nonsense here. This wasn't about the middle class worker but the civil service employees that I'll remind you were protected by state laws before the union arrived, always have been. Even FDR disagreed with collective bargaining for civil service employees.

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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Depends on whether you're a teacher or merely a taxpayer. When people are standing three deep for those jobs, it's hard to believe there's a problem with pay. Oh, unless you're a teacher, I guess.
    Let's not conflate the issue, people are standing 3 deep for any job.

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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Let's not conflate the issue, people are standing 3 deep for any job.
    But do they want to work?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That pro-American worker thing is nonsense here. This wasn't about the middle class worker but the civil service employees that I'll remind you were protected by state laws before the union arrived, always have been. Even FDR disagreed with collective bargaining for civil service employees.
    Well, hell, if FDR disagreed let me shut my yap right now....



    The reason collective bargaining came into play in the first place was the same as why it came about in the private sector. The only time politicians found it necessary to raise the pay of governmental employees was during an election year. Now at least through contract negotiations pay raises and the like can be spread across a 4 year period.

    Also, while the Public school systems in this country hold near monopoly status it isn't like these school teachers have much of a choice in their chosen profession. The surplus of teachers easily lowers the standard acceptable pay rate just like any other race to the bottom job in the private sector.

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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

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    But do they want to work?

    I'm only talking about the ones that do.

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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    Quote Originally Posted by 66gardeners View Post
    Scott Walker acknowledged in an interview Friday that hes open to a presidential bid. Walker insisted he was visiting Iowa in May only because he was invited by Gov. Terry Branstad. But when pressed about his White House ambitions, the Wisconsin Republican said: Would I ever be [interested]? Possibly. I guess the only thing Id say is Im not ruling it out. Perhaps even more notably, Walker wouldnt commit to serving throughout a second four-year term. He said his focus is on substance, not longevity.

    For me, its really a measure of what Ive accomplished and what more I could accomplish if I was in a different position, Walker told POLITICO at CPAC, where hell speak Saturday. The governor noted that he ran for Milwaukee County executive during his state legislative term and then sought the governorship in the midst of his tenure as county executive. But Walker, 45, used the question about diversity to note that the Republican challenge isnt merely that its a party dominated by white males. It goes to old white guys he said, adding: Im not an old white guy.

    Read more: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

    So the criteria to be a republican contender is anything goes as long as you are not an old white guy. They never seem to get a clue. How about being a man of the people - no matter what color or age they are?
    Come 2016 I will vote for anyone who I deem capable of bring fiscal sanity and responsibility to Washington D.C.
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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I'm only talking about the ones that do.
    From my experience, there are very few long term unemployed who want to work for the pay of their skill level. I've never had a problem finding qualified applicants in our business, but I do have a hard time finding help for the house, yet we pay $20-$25 per hour. They all usually start out well, but the longer they work for us, the more they seem to take it for granted, which shows in their performance. We're not picky, but we do demand consistency...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    From my experience, there are very few long term unemployed who want to work for the pay of their skill level. I've never had a problem finding qualified applicants in our business, but I do have a hard time finding help for the house, yet we pay $20-$25 per hour. They all usually start out well, but the longer they work for us, the more they seem to take it for granted, which shows in their performance. We're not picky, but we do demand consistency...
    Complacency does take root, I don't dispute that. The question is what can be done to provide a consistant motivational force (outside of giving them the boot). There needs to be a change in behavior on all sides. On the one side you've got to lose this race to the bottom mentality, and on the other you've got to lose this sense of entitlement to more simply because you've "put in your time".

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    Re: Scott Walker opens up about White House ambitions

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Complacency does take root, I don't dispute that. The question is what can be done to provide a consistant motivational force (outside of giving them the boot). There needs to be a change in behavior on all sides. On the one side you've got to lose this race to the bottom mentality, and on the other you've got to lose this sense of entitlement to more simply because you've "put in your time".
    Drastically reducing entitlements would be a great start. When the need to succeed is removed from individuals, they generally won't succeed. Self-preservation and self-interest are the most basic human instincts, but the government has managed to dull those over time...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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