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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Thanks, George. The war to nowhere has cost us $2 Trillion and will probably cost us several more before all is said and done. And people wonder why the economy tanked, the deficit is so high and then they blame Obama for the fact that we have no money now.


    That $6 Trillion could have bought us lots of bike paths, solar panels and high speed rail lines. But, no. Bush and his supporters had to start a war with a country that never did us any harm.


    Dolts.
    <Yawn> If you want to argue the war was unnecessary, that is one thing. But to say the money was wasted and could have been used to build bike paths, well, you pretty much gig your own fish with that one.

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    There's no defense for GWShiiteForBrains. Give it up so you don't look ignorant by association.

    Elective Amnesia: Why does George W. Bush get a free ride? - The Agonist

    "So why does Bush get a free ride?

    Why isnít there a robust examination of his administrationís mistakes to avoid making them again?

    The failure to engage in rigorous self-examination is an invitation to disaster.

    Weíre seeing the worst Bush policies repeated by a vain glorious President Obama.

    Weíve got wars against those who are not threatening or attacking us in the Middle East.

    The bailouts continued with gusto.

    Deregulation continues unopposed.

    Wall Street and other crooks responsible for the financial collapse are walking around free, getting richer, without any consequence.

    Good jobs are leaving the country, never to return.

    Fossil fools run energy policy with nothing but nostrums aimed at solving the monumental, world threatening problems of pollution and climate change.

    Sure, letís forget Bush. It makes Obama seem almost tolerable."
    Did I defend anybody?
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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Did I defend anybody?
    I dont think so,but i dont think any con or libertarian on this board will counter what user DaveFagan said.

    Prepare for silence.

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So where did the other almost $8 trillion in debt come from? 'Cause that's the additional debt accrued since 2000, unrelated to the Iraq figure. If the total Iraq war cost (extended over 4 decades) could have bought us a lot of **** the fed shouldn't spend money on (bike paths? seriously? the federal government needs to pay for these why??), imagine was the $8 trillion that's ALREADY BEEN LOST could have bought us.

    Since 2000, we've spent almost $3 trillion a year. That's almost $39 trillion. So you're lamenting what we did w/5% of that money. Just to put it into perspective.
    Hey I agree the government wastes a lot of money, but this reply is a complete red herring. The fact that the government has other debts doesn't justify the creation of this debt.

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Hey I agree the government wastes a lot of money, but this reply is a complete red herring. The fact that the government has other debts doesn't justify the creation of this debt.
    I refer to my very last two sentences.
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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    There's no defense for GWShiiteForBrains. Give it up so you don't look ignorant by association.

    Elective Amnesia: Why does George W. Bush get a free ride? - The Agonist

    "So why does Bush get a free ride?

    Why isnít there a robust examination of his administrationís mistakes to avoid making them again?

    The failure to engage in rigorous self-examination is an invitation to disaster.

    Weíre seeing the worst Bush policies repeated by a vain glorious President Obama.

    Weíve got wars against those who are not threatening or attacking us in the Middle East.

    The bailouts continued with gusto.

    Deregulation continues unopposed.

    Wall Street and other crooks responsible for the financial collapse are walking around free, getting richer, without any consequence.

    Good jobs are leaving the country, never to return.

    Fossil fools run energy policy with nothing but nostrums aimed at solving the monumental, world threatening problems of pollution and climate change.

    Sure, letís forget Bush. It makes Obama seem almost tolerable."
    You mean nobody explained it to you? Politicians that reach the presidency all do the same things, regardless of the party from which they came. The parties say different things but that is just to garner votes. What they do is what they believe will maintain their power. Dealing with the common good is a fairly minor part of the agenda. There is no interest in fixing anything or making anything better.

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    The OP talks exclusively about the money Bush spent on the Iraq war but avoids talking about the lives lost and money spent by obama in Afghanistan in what he himself called, "the good war". Both figures dwarf lives lost and money spent by Bush in afghan.

    "On July 7, 2011, U.S. troop deaths from the war in Afghanistan since President Obama took office reached 1,000. That means that nearly two-thirds of the U.S. fatalities in the war in Afghanistan have occurred during the Obama administration, which has managed the war for a mere quarter of its duration."

    U.S. Deaths in Afghanistan: Obama vs Bush | Just Foreign Policy


    “We can’t pay our bills here, yet we’re spending $8 billion a month in Afghanistan,” Mr. Jones said in a telephone interview. “I don’t know what our country is trying to accomplish. History says Afghanistan will never be a nation. It will be a country of tribes. We’re wearing out the troops and spending money we don’t have.”

    A Motley Consensus on the Afghanistan Line Item - NYTimes.com


    Obama always said that we are spending way too much; we're going to go line by line in the budget. And one of the only good promises he made was to save money on Iraq. That's how he was planning to support everyone from cradle to grave. It doesn't really add up that way, but at least he wanted to cut spending on something big.

    "And he did cut the spending in Iraq. But the spending has gone up enormously in Afghanistan. Even adjusted for inflation, we see that, other than Bush's last two years with the surge, total spending was lower for most of the Bush term on the two wars."

    https://mises.org/daily/5231

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    <Yawn> If you want to argue the war was unnecessary, that is one thing. But to say the money was wasted and could have been used to build bike paths, well, you pretty much gig your own fish with that one.
    I was being facetious with the "bike path" bit, but the point made was we could have spent that money on infrastructure, including pipe-dream green energy alternatives. Sure beats spending Trillions to kill people who never did us any harm.

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The OP talks exclusively about the money Bush spent on the Iraq war but avoids talking about the lives lost and money spent by obama in Afghanistan in what he himself called, "the good war". Both figures dwarf lives lost and money spent by Bush in afghan.

    "On July 7, 2011, U.S. troop deaths from the war in Afghanistan since President Obama took office reached 1,000. That means that nearly two-thirds of the U.S. fatalities in the war in Afghanistan have occurred during the Obama administration, which has managed the war for a mere quarter of its duration."

    U.S. Deaths in Afghanistan: Obama vs Bush | Just Foreign Policy


    “We can’t pay our bills here, yet we’re spending $8 billion a month in Afghanistan,” Mr. Jones said in a telephone interview. “I don’t know what our country is trying to accomplish. History says Afghanistan will never be a nation. It will be a country of tribes. We’re wearing out the troops and spending money we don’t have.”

    A Motley Consensus on the Afghanistan Line Item - NYTimes.com


    Obama always said that we are spending way too much; we're going to go line by line in the budget. And one of the only good promises he made was to save money on Iraq. That's how he was planning to support everyone from cradle to grave. It doesn't really add up that way, but at least he wanted to cut spending on something big.

    "And he did cut the spending in Iraq. But the spending has gone up enormously in Afghanistan. Even adjusted for inflation, we see that, other than Bush's last two years with the surge, total spending was lower for most of the Bush term on the two wars."

    https://mises.org/daily/5231
    We went to war in Afghanistan under Bush. Correct?

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    We went to war in Afghanistan under Bush. Correct?
    And yet there are more deaths under Obama than Bush in Afghan. So, whose war is it?

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