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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Democratic colleagues of Kerry and Biden voted 29 to 21 in favor of the AOF. What exactly is your definition of "majority" - as unusual, perhaps, as your definition of "Western"?
    Regime change in Iraq was US Policy enacted by Clinton

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    It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime.

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    It seems to me that all our interference in the ME and Afghanistan have merely increased our exposure to terrorist fanatics. Do we need to add any more countries which hate us ?
    We used the CIA and dirty PR tactics far too often in our attempt to cause internal troubles. That and making the worst of their rulers wealthy with oil profits has caused the fundamentalists to despise our intrigue. Some of that probably couldn't be helped but the Iraq War was an overreach and waste, while Afghanistan should've been done in two years.
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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    There's no such things as "Middle East oil prices". Oil is a globally traded commodity governed by supply and demand. Making a gigantic effort to "stabilize" oil prices by changing government in one oil producing country makes no sense whatsoever.
    You'll have to take that up with the neocons, it was their plan, not mine:

    "The report, Strategic Energy Policy Challenges For The 21st Century, concludes: "The United States remains a prisoner of its energy dilemma. Iraq remains a de-stabilising influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export programme to manipulate oil markets. Therefore the US should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq including military, energy, economic and political/ diplomatic assessments."
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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I've posted more "proof" that the war began in 2003 than you have proving that the first war never ended in 1995.
    BS. You've shown zero proof that GWB started the war in Iraq in 2003 and I've posted a video of Operation Desert Fox from 1998 and other documentation that proves that the war was ongoing on the very day GWB became president.

    Are you aware that the year 1998 precedes the year 2003? Or are you mentally disabled with dyslexia? Or what?

    Why don't you just admit that you are wrong?
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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My definition of a majority is more than half, which was the case of the majority of Democrats that voted against AOF in Iraq.
    21 is more than 29? Are you sure?

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    We used the CIA and dirty PR tactics far too often in our attempt to cause internal troubles. That and making the worst of their rulers wealthy with oil profits has caused the fundamentalists to despise our intrigue. Some of that probably couldn't be helped but the Iraq War was an overreach and waste, while Afghanistan should've been done in two years.
    So after seeing Sadaam Hussien publicly hanged on U-Tube...Gadhaffi getting his ass abused before he was shot..all these countries are still in deep unrest..they are waiting for the troops to get out..and then they can restore their natural balance..

    I know that maybe the Muslim fundamentalist may move in..but at least we will know the name of our enemies..

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    21 is more than 29? Are you sure?
    Are you just completely unaware of how many Democrats were in Congress at the time?

    Let me break it down for you:

    147 Democrats in Congress voted against AOF in Iraq and 111 voted for it.

    In what reality is 147 not more than 111?

    And how many Republicans in Congress voted against AOF in Iraq? 7

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    BS. You've shown zero proof that GWB started the war in Iraq in 2003 and I've posted a video of Operation Desert Fox from 1998 and other documentation that proves that the war was ongoing on the very day GWB became president.

    Are you aware that the year 1998 precedes the year 2003? Or are you mentally disabled with dyslexia? Or what?

    Why don't you just admit that you are wrong?
    What part of enforcing the peace agreement not being a "war" do you not understand? SHeesh.

    A four-day bombing run is not a war.
    The December 1998 bombing of Iraq (code-named Operation Desert Fox) was a major four-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets from December 16, 1998, to December 19, 1998, by the United States and United Kingdom. The contemporaneous justification for the strikes was Iraq's failure to comply with United Nations Security Council resolutions as well as their interference with United Nations Special Commission inspectors.
    Bombing of Iraq (December 1998) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    21 is more than 29? Are you sure?
    I take it you never heard of the House of Representatives.

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    Re: Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    What part of enforcing the peace agreement not being a "war" do you not understand? SHeesh.
    "Enforcing the peace agreement" and "war" are not mutually exclusive terms, obviously.

    Everyone who is not an idiot can understand that concept.

    Fact is, GWB inherited the war in Iraq whether you like it or not.

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