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LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

Whipsnade said:
They are not the reason that weapons and ammo are flying off the shelf. Again-what would your response be if blacks and/or Latinos were buying weapons at the rate that was causing ammo shortages?:peace
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my response would be to ask where they were shopping, who had the best prices, and go buy a couple more cases myself. I'm no more concerned bout law abiding black and Hispanic gun owners than I am about law abiding white gun owners. It's the folks out there killing 11,000 people a year and committing a few hundred thousand violent crimes a year, right now, here in the real world, that I think people should concern themselves with.
 
VanceMack said:
my response would be to ask where they were shopping, who had the best prices, and go buy a couple more cases myself. I'm no more concerned bout law abiding black and Hispanic gun owners than I am about law abiding white gun owners. It's the folks out there killing 11,000 people a year and committing a few hundred thousand violent crimes a year, right now, here in the real world, that I think people should concern themselves with.
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I can hear the screeching from the winger propaganda machine now. The “Black Panthers AND THE Pacheco’s are arming themselves“.:lamo
 
VanceMack said:
Really? Where exactly do you see that happening? I can tell that those patriot militias are such a clear and present danger. And yet...so covert.
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I agree with what the LA Times said:
"What can be done to reverse this tide of belligerent ignorance? Not much. The typical patriot acts within his free-speech and 2nd Amendment rights, and in fact most patriot activity consists of venting steam by meeting with like-minded Neanderthals and firing off blog posts threatening civil war. Yet such blather tends to get under the skin of the Timothy McVeighs of the world. These groups should be closely monitored, with resources adequate to the task, even if it means shifting some homeland security money from the hunt for foreign terrorists."

I don't see the militia threat as an imminent, and the greater danger to our civil rights and democracy at this time is elected officials.
 
Whipsnade said:
I can hear the screeching from the winger propaganda machine now. The “Black Panthers AND THE Pacheco’s are arming themselves“.:lamo
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Can you? And yet...nothing from the LA Times. How many people were shot and or killed due to gang related violence in California last year? The year before? The year before that?

Yuck it up fuzzball. Keep worrying about those "patriot militias"...and keep burying the dead. Could even say you were "dying laughing". Haw haw haw! Haw...heh...

Its really not all that funny when you stack up the bodies.
 
Whipsnade said:
I can hear the screeching from the winger propaganda machine now. The “Black Panthers AND THE Pacheco’s are arming themselves“.:lamo
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HAH HAH!!!! A laugh ****in RIOT!!! :lamo
December, 2012 - Homicide Report - Los Angeles Times

John Lee 33 12/31/12 Los Feliz Gunshot
Jose Velasquez 36 12/31/12 Lakewood Gunshot
Guillermo Diaz 38 12/31/12 Santa Fe Springs Gunshot
Dennis Cubas-Lopez 24 12/30/12 Pico-Union Gunshot
Alejandro Flores 19 12/30/12 San Fernando Stabbing
James Nabors 22 12/30/12 Palmdale Gunshot
John Woods 50 12/28/12 Hawthorne Other
Victor Mcclinton 49 12/25/12 Pasadena Gunshot
Favian Macias 22 12/25/12 East Los Angeles Gunshot
Jimmie Brown Jr. 40 12/24/12 Carson Gunshot
Jason Vega 35 12/24/12 El Sereno Gunshot
Joel Garcia Jr. 32 12/23/12 Bellflower Stabbing
Joshua Shoop 35 12/23/12 West Whittier-Los Nietos Gunshot
Jorge Herrera 24 12/22/12 Harvard Park Gunshot
Ediberto Genis 17 12/22/12 Green Meadows Gunshot
Miguel Alvarez Jr. 18 12/22/12 Long Beach Gunshot
Iris Barrera 29 12/21/12 Pico-Union Gunshot
Erik Herrera 32 12/16/12 South Gate Gunshot
Maria Calderon 70 12/16/12 Pacoima Unspecified
Richard Aldana 16 12/16/12 Harbor Gateway Gunshot
Damien Lerma 31 12/15/12 Hyde Park Gunshot
Azniv Meguerian 51 12/15/12 Tarzana Gunshot
Amado Martinez-Bello 52 12/13/12 Chesterfield Square Stabbing
Edward Clark 28 12/12/12 Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw Gunshot
Lorri Anderson 51 12/11/12 Westlake Gunshot
Jose Jimenez 18 12/9/12 Pomona Gunshot
Iyonhia Stafford 22 12/7/12 Broadway-Manchester Gunshot
Mark Kirksey 37 12/7/12 Watts Gunshot
Markell Bellows 26 12/7/12 Watts Gunshot
Jose Gallardo 33 12/6/12 Compton Gunshot
Carlos Carrillo 26 12/6/12 Hollywood Gunshot
Darryl Avant 45 12/5/12 Green Meadows Gunshot
Bryan Champion 35 12/4/12 Carson Gunshot
Gerardo Santos 51 12/3/12 Downtown Other
Alice Whiting 32 12/3/12 View Park-Windsor Hills Gunshot
Franco Olea 27 12/2/12 Santa Clarita Stabbing
Candice Altamirano 27 12/2/12 Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw Gunshot
Unidentified person 12/2/12
Teofilo Navales 49 12/2/12 Granada Hills Gunshot
Unidentified person 12/2/12
Unidentified person 12/2/12
Pablo Moreno 27 12/2/12 Westlake Gunshot
Joanna Galbraith 74 12/1/12 Torrance Gunshot
Jeovany Mendoza 18 12/1/12 Van Nuys Gunshot
Dante Beaver 40 12/1/12 Westmont Stabbing
Jose Cruz Jr. 23 12/1/12 Long Beach Gunshot


****in HI LAR ious!!!

Yeah man...better focus on them thar 'patriot militias'
 
VanceMack said:
HAH HAH!!!! A laugh ****in RIOT!!! :lamo
December, 2012 - Homicide Report - Los Angeles Times

John Lee 33 12/31/12 Los Feliz Gunshot
Jose Velasquez 36 12/31/12 Lakewood Gunshot
Guillermo Diaz 38 12/31/12 Santa Fe Springs Gunshot
Dennis Cubas-Lopez 24 12/30/12 Pico-Union Gunshot
Alejandro Flores 19 12/30/12 San Fernando Stabbing
James Nabors 22 12/30/12 Palmdale Gunshot
John Woods 50 12/28/12 Hawthorne Other
Victor Mcclinton 49 12/25/12 Pasadena Gunshot
Favian Macias 22 12/25/12 East Los Angeles Gunshot
Jimmie Brown Jr. 40 12/24/12 Carson Gunshot
Jason Vega 35 12/24/12 El Sereno Gunshot
Joel Garcia Jr. 32 12/23/12 Bellflower Stabbing
Joshua Shoop 35 12/23/12 West Whittier-Los Nietos Gunshot
Jorge Herrera 24 12/22/12 Harvard Park Gunshot
Ediberto Genis 17 12/22/12 Green Meadows Gunshot
Miguel Alvarez Jr. 18 12/22/12 Long Beach Gunshot
Iris Barrera 29 12/21/12 Pico-Union Gunshot
Erik Herrera 32 12/16/12 South Gate Gunshot
Maria Calderon 70 12/16/12 Pacoima Unspecified
Richard Aldana 16 12/16/12 Harbor Gateway Gunshot
Damien Lerma 31 12/15/12 Hyde Park Gunshot
Azniv Meguerian 51 12/15/12 Tarzana Gunshot
Amado Martinez-Bello 52 12/13/12 Chesterfield Square Stabbing
Edward Clark 28 12/12/12 Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw Gunshot
Lorri Anderson 51 12/11/12 Westlake Gunshot
Jose Jimenez 18 12/9/12 Pomona Gunshot
Iyonhia Stafford 22 12/7/12 Broadway-Manchester Gunshot
Mark Kirksey 37 12/7/12 Watts Gunshot
Markell Bellows 26 12/7/12 Watts Gunshot
Jose Gallardo 33 12/6/12 Compton Gunshot
Carlos Carrillo 26 12/6/12 Hollywood Gunshot
Darryl Avant 45 12/5/12 Green Meadows Gunshot
Bryan Champion 35 12/4/12 Carson Gunshot
Gerardo Santos 51 12/3/12 Downtown Other
Alice Whiting 32 12/3/12 View Park-Windsor Hills Gunshot
Franco Olea 27 12/2/12 Santa Clarita Stabbing
Candice Altamirano 27 12/2/12 Baldwin Hills/Crenshaw Gunshot
Unidentified person 12/2/12
Teofilo Navales 49 12/2/12 Granada Hills Gunshot
Unidentified person 12/2/12
Unidentified person 12/2/12
Pablo Moreno 27 12/2/12 Westlake Gunshot
Joanna Galbraith 74 12/1/12 Torrance Gunshot
Jeovany Mendoza 18 12/1/12 Van Nuys Gunshot
Dante Beaver 40 12/1/12 Westmont Stabbing
Jose Cruz Jr. 23 12/1/12 Long Beach Gunshot


****in HI LAR ious!!!

Yeah man...better focus on them thar 'patriot militias'
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YEAH! them self appointed patriots are a laugh a minute.Sometimes the even resort to fertilizer.:peace
 
Whipsnade said:
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YEAH! them self appointed patriots are a laugh a minute.Sometimes the even resort to fertilizer.:peace
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Ah...so your version of a "patriot" is Timothy McViegh. Gotcha. But then...that's not really stocking up on guns and ammo, is it. forgetting that you kinda had to take a sudden departure to make a point, while 168 dead folk is truly tragic, you can call that a "slow month" in California. That tragic incident occurred in 1994...how many dead bodies were piled up before...and since?

It's still just a complete laugh riot, huh? You keep focusing on all those ghost patriot militias and the 'potential' threat.
 
VanceMack said:
Ah...so your version of a "patriot" is Timothy McViegh. Gotcha. But then...that's not really stocking up on guns and ammo, is it. forgetting that you kinda had to take a sudden departure to make a point, while 168 dead folk is truly tragic, you can call that a "slow month" in California. That tragic incident occurred in 1994...how many dead bodies were piled up before...and since?

It's still just a complete laugh riot, huh? You keep focusing on all those ghost patriot militias and the 'potential' threat.
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You’re the one that brought 46 homicides into the discussion as well as so-called patriots.
 
Whipsnade said:
You’re the one that brought 46 homicides into the discussion as well as so-called patriots.
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46 homicides...1 month...gun violence. That's what you call a "Real World" threat. Funny how we will continue to ignore that and focus on that phantom threat. Yep...I brought that up. Sure did.
 
VanceMack said:
46 homicides...1 month...gun violence. That's what you call a "Real World" threat. Funny how we will continue to ignore that and focus on that phantom threat. Yep...I brought that up. Sure did.
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And what does that have to do with "Hispanic men or black men " buying weapons at a record rate and causing ammo shortages?
 
LA Times reporters are worse than pedophiles.
 
Whipsnade said:
And what does that have to do with "Hispanic men or black men " buying weapons at a record rate and causing ammo shortages?
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Actually that was your point. I told you..I don't have a problem with law abiding blacks and/or Hispanics buying guns and ammo. Most of the people buying those guns and ammo aren't members of your phantom menace...they are law abiding citizens that you have nothing to fear from. Just like you don't have much to fear from those vewy scawy militias. Meanwhile...those gang bangers and thugs are still carving notches in their gun handles and bloodying up the streets..but lets no worry about that. Lets hype up the phantom menace.

How many shootings in California last year? Yeah...fear the patriots. :lamo
 
So...I guess it's safe to say that the L.A. Times has their own liberal version of Sarah Palin.
 
QUOTE VanceMack

I don't have a problem with law abiding blacks and/or Hispanics buying guns and ammo.
Most of the people buying those guns and ammo aren't members of your phantom menace...they are law abiding citizens that you have nothing to fear from.
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Blacks and/or Hispanics are not the cause of the shortage of weapons/ammo are they?


Just like you don't have much to fear from those vewy scawy militias.
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Whose scared of them?


Meanwhile...those gang bangers and thugs are still carving notches in their gun handles and bloodying up the streets..but lets no worry about that. Lets hype up the phantom menace.
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Very true but gang bangers and thugs are not the causes of weapons/ammo flying off the shelves either are they?
 
ChezC3 said:
Why should LAT reporters be the only one's who can make outlandish claims?
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Well...you coulda at least kept it on topic-sorta.Hmmm... Pedophile.
 
Mycroft said:
So...I guess it's safe to say that the L.A. Times has their own liberal version of Sarah Palin.
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WHAT!!Did he give a speech in fronta the turkey head shredder too?:shock:
 
Whipsnade said:
Well...you coulda at least kept it on topic-sorta.Hmmm... Pedophile.
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It was appropriate. White, law abiding gun owners, who reserve their right to defend freedom, that are open in their dissent of the tyranny our government is crushing us under being not even equated to but further being considered greater in deplorable stature is equal in its absurdity to claiming LAT reporters are worse than pedophiles.
 
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ChezC3 said:
It was appropriate. White, law abiding gun owners, who reserve their right to defend freedom, that are open in their dissent of the tyranny our government is crushing us under being not even equated but being considered greater in deplorable stature is equal in its absurdity to claiming LAT reporters are worse than pedophiles.
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What is the tyranny that you feel so crushed by that you feel the need to call a Times reporter a pedophile? That's pretty harsh.
 
Whipsnade said:
What is the tyranny that you feel so crushed by that you feel the need to call a Times reporter a pedophile? That's pretty harsh.
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If you have to ask, there is no point in saying...
 
Whipsnade said:
What is the tyranny that you feel so crushed by that you feel the need to call a Times reporter a pedophile? That's pretty harsh.
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Oh, and for the record, I didn't call a LAT reporter a pedophile, I made a general statement about LAT reporters just like a LAT reporter did...
 
ChezC3 said:
Oh, and for the record, I didn't call a LAT reporter a pedophile, I made a general statement about LAT reporters just like a LAT reporter did...
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How would you know that a Times reporter would do something like that?This is a debate site...gotta come up with something besides strawmen.Common, you can do it.I have faith inya.
 
Whipsnade said:
In other words it total bull**** eh?
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:yawn:

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 
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