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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Only so much as to secure the free exercise of rights to all. Nothing beyond. Danger is a consequence of freedom, this must be understood in order to remain free.
    Again, you cannot go out there and say you are going to kill people over your opinion, and then pull back and pretend you are safe. So you said you were willing to kill over your opinion of what freedom is, which means you are potentially violent over your opinion, and you just used your freedom of speech to tell us all that. this is showing a real lack of knowledge of the consequences of freedom. But thank you for proving my point so concisely, you may go now or remain for extra credit for me if you like.

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    LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Why is this relevant? I was trying to make a joke, that being that since terrorists kill so few people that there are lots of things that kill more people than terrorists.
    It's VERY relevant. I get the joke...now lets talk real world. How many thousands are killed every year by blacks and Hispanics? Would you say it is a safe bet to say more murders are committed by blacks and Hispanics than whites( or terrorists)? Would you say it's a fair bet that there would be an uproar if the LA Times made that comparison? Would you say it's a fair bet that he people gleefully supporting he attack on conservative white men would **** themselves in attacking the times of they made the comparison to black men and Hispanic men?

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Why is this relevant? I was trying to make a joke, that being that since terrorists kill so few people that there are lots of things that kill more people than terrorists.
    I freaked out the debate forum livecitizen.com when i responded to a 9/11 thread by listing everything that kills more Americans every year than the total number of Americans killed by muslim extremists. I was getting so much flak that my computer was crashing every time I tried to log onto livecitizen for about 3 days afterward and when i did, all the newest posts to me were "answer me or your'e a troll.....answer me or your'e a troll.....**** you, you're a troll". I got demoted from Mayor to citizen in my absence. LOL no one wants to hear that there are many scarier things out there than what the media tells them to be afraid of.

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope, that's a rather idiotic claim. Understanding the inherent dangers of government is not a sign of instability, it's a sign of having studied history.
    Yes, we know violence is your answer when you have an opinion.

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Yikes peeps! That's one of the saddest most disgusting pieces a' partisan crap out there. How despicable!

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Interesting. I wonder if the founding fathers of the country would currently be considered "extremist patriots", and would have the liberals that we see here calling for government surveillance of them, and arrest/conviction if possible. I suspect so. Funny how the tide gets turned, depending on one's comfort and security.
    of course they would.

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What do you mean by "watermelon"? Is that some kind of code?
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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Again, you cannot go out there and say you are going to kill people over your opinion, and then pull back and pretend you are safe. So you said you were willing to kill over your opinion of what freedom is, which means you are potentially violent over your opinion, and you just used your freedom of speech to tell us all that. this is showing a real lack of knowledge of the consequences of freedom. But thank you for proving my point so concisely, you may go now or remain for extra credit for me if you like.
    I don't think what I've said is what you think I've said. Founders took up arms, but I guess they were terrorists and we should have reported them to the Crown, yes? Why in no point in history has any government been abusive to its people, no rebellion ever warranted. Those are just violent thugs who needed a good dose of monitoring.

    Listen, I know your Catch-22 argument, heard it a lot. It's retarded. There's no Catch-22 with freedom, and dissent must be protected. Perchance you disagree, but it makes it no less true. "Blah blah blah, you're exercising your rights and it's dangerous!". Welcome to freedom sweetheart, I suggest you understand the ramifications of it.
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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Yes, we know violence is your answer when you have an opinion.
    Yes, we know that government tyranny is your answer when someone else expresses an opinion.

    Hahahah.
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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    To me it is one thing to be about politically defending your right to have guns, but some of the people do take it to the extreme. I must just be clueless because while I distrust the government at finding solutions to problems, I do not reasonable expect them to be declaring martial law and kicking in doors and the like. Some of these groups should be watched--it isn't as if some of these folks have not plotted to blow crap up and start down the path to doing it. That is just the reality of reality.

    I actually let the local government map the interiors of all my business buildings and my home, including the location of my gun room at my house because I am a horrible person who wanted the fire department to know what hazards exist, have a floor plan to follow as the roll onto a fire at any of the locations, and most importantly, know the quickest paths to the kids bedrooms in case I am the first victim. What a bad American I am for sleeping better knowing that the FD already has designed plans of attack for fires on all my property!!!!!

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