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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    The gun nuts should have little room to complain about this. How many threats have come from them about watering the tree of liberty, or something much more direct? Then there is their statements that the second amendment deters unjust laws and the removal of freedoms through the overt threat that the people have guns and will shed blood. The whole idea of carrying a weapon is an overt threat. It is supposed to say criminals don't screw with me because i will shoot your ass.

    of course, when people bring that up thn comes the bumbling and idiocy as they realize they just made a huge case for them being violent and scary. After that it is either insults, or really bad excuses like they just want a gun to butter their toast and would never shoot someone with it.

    this is why no one can get an honest discussion about firearms from the right. i will give you guys the left has it's own problems, but it is like a comedy of errors every time you try to get a guntard into one of these conversations. It normally ends with the guntard making up some insults because they know their own story conflicts itself at almost every turn. It is like the idea of peace through superior firepower. it is a blatant contradiction but they love the concept.

    maybe one of the gun people can answer this question. Are you a dangerous threat to the government because you might use your guns to "protect yourself" through deadly force, or are you just a bunch of harmless people who the government should not be concerned about? because if you are the supposed heroes protecting the rights of the free, then you are terrorists using the threat of gun violence to deter and prevent oppressive actions. You also become a threat to the safety of every one around you and deserve to be monitored. If you are not a threat because you would never use your gun for violence, then you don't need much more than a bolt loaded .22 for shooting some cans. make up your minds which story you are going to use, and then stick to it.

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's the general solution for conservative and liberal alike...more government involvement, more government monitoring, less freedom.
    I would love a world full of responsible people who can handle freedom. until you find a cure for idiocy we need government stepping in.

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Interesting. I wonder if the founding fathers of the country would currently be considered "extremist patriots", and would have the liberals that we see here calling for government surveillance of them, and arrest/conviction if possible. I suspect so. Funny how the tide gets turned, depending on one's comfort and security.
    Water the tree of liberty is pretty much lets go on a jihad. it is all the same thing when certain people have no clue what liberty actually is.

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    The gun nuts should have little room to complain about this. How many threats have come from them about watering the tree of liberty, or something much more direct? Then there is their statements that the second amendment deters unjust laws and the removal of freedoms through the overt threat that the people have guns and will shed blood. The whole idea of carrying a weapon is an overt threat. It is supposed to say criminals don't screw with me because i will shoot your ass.

    of course, when people bring that up thn comes the bumbling and idiocy as they realize they just made a huge case for them being violent and scary. After that it is either insults, or really bad excuses like they just want a gun to butter their toast and would never shoot someone with it.

    this is why no one can get an honest discussion about firearms from the right. i will give you guys the left has it's own problems, but it is like a comedy of errors every time you try to get a guntard into one of these conversations. It normally ends with the guntard making up some insults because they know their own story conflicts itself at almost every turn. It is like the idea of peace through superior firepower. it is a blatant contradiction but they love the concept.

    maybe one of the gun people can answer this question. Are you a dangerous threat to the government because you might use your guns to "protect yourself" through deadly force, or are you just a bunch of harmless people who the government should not be concerned about? because if you are the supposed heroes protecting the rights of the free, then you are terrorists using the threat of gun violence to deter and prevent oppressive actions. You also become a threat to the safety of every one around you and deserve to be monitored. If you are not a threat because you would never use your gun for violence, then you don't need much more than a bolt loaded .22 for shooting some cans. make up your minds which story you are going to use, and then stick to it.
    Well free ain't ever and never will be safe. The biggest terrorist threat to us all is the government itself.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wonderful. Now...statistically...what is the likelihood of being murdered by a white man as compared to a black or Hispanic man? What do you think the response would have been had the newspaper made sub a comparison?
    Why is this relevant? I was trying to make a joke, that being that since terrorists kill so few people that there are lots of things that kill more people than terrorists.

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Well statistically speaking you are more likely to be killed by an angry white conservative than a terrorism. Of course you're probably more likely to be killed by a watermelon than a terrorist as well.
    What do you mean by "watermelon"? Is that some kind of code?

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well free ain't ever and never will be safe. The biggest terrorist threat to us all is the government itself.
    i guess that would be one vote for dangerous, unstable, and needs to be monitored. Anyone else?

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    The southern poverty report: The Year in Hate and Extremism | Southern Poverty Law Center

    Worth noting (and shocking) is the LA Times poll which accompanied the story which leaned 96%-4against the thrust of the editorial.

    Truth is in between. The examiner and LA times stuff are crap rhetoric but the SPLC is worth taking a look with a grain of salt for what their agenda is IMHO.

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I would love a world full of responsible people who can handle freedom. until you find a cure for idiocy we need government stepping in.
    Only so much as to secure the free exercise of rights to all. Nothing beyond. Danger is a consequence of freedom, this must be understood in order to remain free.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: LA Times says conservative white men worse than terrorists, monitoring needed

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    i guess that would be one vote for dangerous, unstable, and needs to be monitored. Anyone else?
    Nope, that's a rather idiotic claim. Understanding the inherent dangers of government is not a sign of instability, it's a sign of having studied history.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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