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    Re: Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    after the northridge quake, had a co-worker appraising damage
    wore our agency's blue cap
    took it off when he got out of the car
    apparently that was a then used signal to initiate a drive by
    that federal official was wasted for the innocent act of wiping sweat from his brow
    never located his killer
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You're presuming he was lawfully permitted to own said firearm? He had a CC permit, etc etc?

    I have a feeling - for some insane reason - that this is not going to be the case. Call me crazy.
    Where do you see in my comments anything regarding the perpetrator or victim for that matter having a CCW?

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    Re: Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    "Off with his head"!

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    Re: Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Where do you see in my comments anything regarding the perpetrator or victim for that matter having a CCW?
    You said it yourself:

    "Continually we hear of the desire to create new gun laws, laws which invariably target only law abiding citizen."

    So just what are you suggesting - since we all agree that laws only affect law-abiding citizens . . . and he maybe or may not have been such.

    The only thing that will affect him is his possible conviction. That's the main end-result of passing laws: when it does not prevent it sets the groundrules for punishment.

    (I was making the point that he was already proven to not abide by the laws - so odds are against the sense that he actually followed the law *this time* and had a permit to actually own or carry a firearm, etc - he likely falls into the 'illegal-ownership' category . . . but maybe I'm wrong. I just doubt it.)
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    Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You said it yourself:

    "Continually we hear of the desire to create new gun laws, laws which invariably target only law abiding citizen."

    So just what are you suggesting - since we all agree that laws only affect law-abiding citizens . . . and he maybe or may not have been such.

    The only thing that will affect him is his possible conviction. That's the main end-result of passing laws: when it does not prevent it sets the groundrules for punishment.

    (I was making the point that he was already proven to not abide by the laws - so odds are against the sense that he actually followed the law *this time* and had a permit to actually own or carry a firearm, etc - he likely falls into the 'illegal-ownership' category . . . but maybe I'm wrong. I just doubt it.)
    What I said was that every time there is a school shooting or some other tragic incident there is a rush to pass new laws. There doesn't NEED to be new laws, just enforcement of existing laws. Where the school shootings are tragic but relatively commonplace, THESE types of events happen every day and they are ignored. The police have had their hands on the scumbag that committed this murder 8 times, twice for weapons related charges.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What I said was that every time there is a school shooting or some other tragic incident there is a rush to pass new laws. There doesn't NEED to be new laws, just enforcement of existing laws. Where the school shootings are tragic but relatively commonplace, THESE types of events happen every day and they are ignored. The police have had their hands on the scumbag that committed this murder 8 times, twice for weapons related charges.
    while i do believe there needs to be more rigid gun control law i agree that what is more important is that the existing provisions be much more effectively enforced
    plus our nation's mental health care system needs to be replaced
    shooting someone because of the manner in which he wore his hat is not a sign of sanity
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    Re: Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What I said was that every time there is a school shooting or some other tragic incident there is a rush to pass new laws. There doesn't NEED to be new laws, just enforcement of existing laws. Where the school shootings are tragic but relatively commonplace, THESE types of events happen every day and they are ignored. The police have had their hands on the scumbag that committed this murder 8 times, twice for weapons related charges.
    Gotcha - whatever happened to 3strikes and your out laws?
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    Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Gotcha - whatever happened to 3strikes and your out laws?
    I agree. Or mandatory minimums for violent crimes. That's (IMO) what should be pursued since the vast majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by people with a violent criminal history.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Are you kidding? If you go after a minority there are going to be 20 civil rights organizations dropping subpoenas off on your doorstep. They don't care what the kid did. All they care about is his skin color and how he's been "oppressed" for his whole life and how law enforcement is just trying to keep the people down. If the city cracks down too much they end up with millions upon millions in legal costs so they turn their eyes away to the crime and then pay "reparations" to these extortionists and meanwhile the city keeps getting dragged lower and lower and more and more kids end up running the streets.
    That's an excellent analysis that seems to be completely ignored in all discussions of big city crime. I'm not sure that the referenced civil rights organizations could even be characterized as "well meaning" in this regard. Leading the charge would be the ACLU.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Man killed because of the way he wore his hat

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Maybe he was a "get out the vote" organizer for team Barry and now had some free time on his hands.
    For a supposedly Canadian individual you sure are obsessed with Obama.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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