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Thread: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The problem is that we don't teach just FACTS. Instead we teach the touchy feely emotional garbage as well. Instead of teaching "US Government Relication of Natives" we teach about "The Trail of Tears". We totally forget to teach the idea that the natives were a conquered people we refused to assimilate to the conquerors society.
    Oh so you want to teach the authoritarian view instead. Sorry you don't get to dictate that, society does.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The problem is that we don't teach just FACTS.
    What are the facts, Tigger?

    That forest fairies exist and only rare people can see them?
    That The Fates control our lives and even the Gods cannot control them?
    That women should get beaten?
    That killing cops is better than being subject to the justice system?
    That homosexuals deserve the death penalty?
    That smoking pot deserves the death penalty?


    Or did you just make all that crap up yourself and the educational system really has nothing to do with wackjob positions?

    Seriously, dude, you making claims about "facts" and what the educational system should teach is sketchy at best.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Oh so you want to teach the authoritarian view instead. Sorry you don't get to dictate that, society does.
    Which is why American Society needs to be burned down and rebuilt from the ground up.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    New Mexico is part of the UNITED STATES. The fact that at one time the area belonged to Mexico is immaterial. Should Massachusetts teach British History? Should Louisiana teach French History? New York teach Dutch History? Nobody living in New Mexico currently was born while New Mexico was still Spanish/Mexican territory. GET OVER IT.
    1. They were talking about teaching Mexican-American history, not Mexican history. (although they should also teach Mexican history since it their neighbor and they were once part of Mexico)

    2. Having grown up in NY State, I can tell you that the history of the Dutch in the state was taught (in the 1960s and 70s), as it should have been.

    3. History cetainly should include events that happenned befoe people were born.
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 03-17-13 at 02:37 PM.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

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    Which is why American Society needs to be burned down and rebuilt from the ground up.
    No it just needs authoritarians such as yourself to leave and find someplace more suitable. Until then, enjoy this society giving the middle finger to your ideas lol.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No it just needs authoritarians such as yourself to leave and find someplace more suitable. Until then, enjoy this society giving the middle finger to your ideas lol.
    As soon as I find a place that will take me, I'm gone. That would be much easier if you people would stop trying to export your disgusting democratic ideals to every corner of the globe. As for American society giving me the finger.... Maybe it should remember that I often go armed and have no respect for human life.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes, we should be teaching the History. That's not the same thing as what they appear to be wanting to teach in New Mexico. You can teach the history of that area without attempting to create a counter-culture effect while doing it. How about just teaching the facts and leaving it at that? If these kids want to explore the socio-political angles of it they can do it on their own time.
    Considering that the USA stole parts of Mexico by force and treated the people who then became Mexican-Americans as second class citizens, we shouldn't be offended when it is described as a rape of their people.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

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    ... remember that I .....have no respect for human life.
    That explains a lot.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth
    Considering that the USA stole parts of Mexico by force and treated the people who then became Mexican-Americans as second class citizens, we shouldn't be offended when it is described as a rape of their people.
    1 - There is no such thing as Mexican-American history. Mexican history OR Anerican history. Not a combination of the two. If they want Nexican history move back to Mexico.

    2 - Only appropriate as a portion of early American history so far as I'm concerned.

    To the victor go the spoils and they get to write the history as well. Those people should feel fortunate they weren't removed form the conquered area one way or another.

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    Re: Nora Espinoza, NM Legis: Keep Mexican-American Studies Books Out Of Schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    As for American society giving me the finger.... Maybe it should remember that I often go armed and have no respect for human life.
    Oh I and the rest of society are so scared lol. Trust me your Internet bravado means nothing to me.

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