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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    That started 30,40 or more years ago
    About the time baby boomers were coming of age and expected to be given everything their little hearts demanded, damn the cost.

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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    And without the Congressional loan officer authorizing X amount to buy that new Chevy 3500 truck. The President could not buy it. Doesn't matter if the President does the final spending, he could not do it without Congress giving him the money first.
    We're beginning to argue semantics which will not further the discussion. The point is there are 536 individuals in DC responsible for spending and borrowing, in some way, not a political party, as many "no" votes are posturing simply to be used in the next election. Votes for or against policy have mainly been reduced to what's good for the politician...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    We're beginning to argue semantics which will not further the discussion. The point is there are 536 individuals in DC responsible for spending and borrowing, in some way, not a political party, as many "no" votes are posturing simply to be used in the next election. Votes for or against policy have mainly been reduced to what's good for the politician...
    That's very true. I think we're on the same page. IMO the whole DC bunch needs to be fired and we'll start all over.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    About the time baby boomers were coming of age and expected to be given everything their little hearts demanded, damn the cost.
    How about all the money we put into Social Security and Medicare we get back?
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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Wouldn't it be novel if congress and the President could announce that any federal agency that was able to save a minimum of 10% of their budget would not have their next year's budget reduced and they could keep half of those savings to use in the next fiscal year? You might actually find some that compete to be more efficient and cost effective.
    Every agency has been cutting back 10% most years. And it still doesn't please the republicans.

    White House Orders Deeper Federal Travel Cuts, New Meetings Policies

    May 14, 2012 - 12:45 PM ET

    By Jay Boehmer and Chris Davis

    The White House Office of Management and Budget on Friday instructed federal agencies to cut fiscal-year 2013 travel expenses by 30 percent from 2010 levels, 10 percentage-points deeper than previously ordered cuts.

    Federal agencies "must maintain this reduced level of spending each year" through fiscal-year 2016, according to a May 11 memo from Office of Management and Budget acting director Jeff Zients. The memo also establishes new federal conference spending guidelines while promoting cost discipline in other indirect spending categories, including fleet management and real estate.

    White House Orders Deeper Federal Travel Cuts, New Meetings Policies - Business Travel News

    The President has ordered cuts to federal agencies almost every year. That's how he has managed to lower the deficit.
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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    How about all the money we put into Social Security and Medicare we get back?
    You do realize that these programs give you more back than you actually put in? The problem is that the government doesn't protect and grow these investments you make at anywhere near a good financial advisor would.

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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    50/50 huh? So the military, which was what - 25% of the budget got 50% of the cut and social programs that are 50/60% of the budget got 50% of the cut. Looks like
    it should have been just what you ordered - to the "T" actually.


    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Hardly. The "Sequester" split 109 Billion in cuts 50/50 between military and non-military. So, $54.5B makes hardly a dent in the total military budget.
    How the Across-the-Board Cuts in the Budget Control Act Will Work — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

    The real question should be why we need to spend half our budget on defense when no one is even threatening us.

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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    That's the point. Without Congress making it legal there would be no money in the wallet.
    Your original point was that "Obama hasn't borrowed or spent anything. Congress controls the money, they're the ones doing the borrow and spend thing", which isn't true - the President plays a huge role.

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    Re: House GOP Unveils Blueprint To Slash Medicaid, Medicare And Repeal Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Where is the Democrats' effort to balane the budget in x-number of years? Oh, I forgot, they're too chicken-**** to put one out there. Oh, wait! I forgot again! They're putting one out there that will raise taxes by $1 trillion and never balance the budget. Oops. Senate Democrats prepare to roll out budget blueprint - The Washington Post
    "It’s almost as if the election never happened,” Hoyer said. “While this budget purports to balance within in 10 years, on a practical level, it could not be implemented."
    Now that I can believe ...
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    Re: Full Extreme Ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    "Two decades later, America is entering another round of deep defense cuts. As Washington debates "sequestration'' — automatic budget cuts that threaten to slash $600 billion from the Pentagon budget by 2023, beginning March 1 — the defense industry, and cities that depend on it, know sequestration isn't even half the problem.

    Add in another $487 billion, 10-year defense cut in 2011's debt-ceiling legislation. The end of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan mean the separate budget for that, once $160 billion annually, now $88.5 billion, will wind down, too. Altogether, a budget that peaked at $716.3 billion in 2012 has dropped to a requested $701.8 billion this year and is set to hit $589 billion by 2014.

    It could go much lower with sequestration, although still well above the $294 billion spent in 2000. That's about $392 billion in today's dollars."
    Defense budget cuts hit businesses, localities
    You may as well give up presenting facts to most of the libs/progressives on this forum. As the great modern day poet Sweet Brown said "Ain't nobody got time fa dat!" That defense has been, is being, or will be cut to a little more than half of what it was isn't enough. We have already received budget plans that are projected all the way out until 2022. They project cuts all the way until then. Now, it's time to hit social programs. It's the next logical step in cuts seeing as how they are the most costly of our programs. But, as it's perceived that defense is the GOP's cash cow, social programs are perceived to be liberal's cash cow. Unfortunately for them, they hung their hat on the cash cow that will piss people off if you cut it. People could care less that we (the military) aren't getting proper training or maintenance on our equipment anymore. Not to mention things as simple as printer paper lol.
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