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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Agreed

    The next time an american decides to shoot up a school, the teachers should not call the police

    They should call a judge

    The judge caan throw "the book" at the shooter. I'm sure that will save the lives of many children
    No first you call the police. If the police use lethal force, then you call a judge. The incident is investigated to determine if what happened was in fact lawful self defense. That is due process. Requiring that evidence be presented when the government takes a life, even if after the fact, is absolutely vital to the rule of law.

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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So it wasn't legal for the US to launch military attacks on US soil. Paultard got a statement saying it was not legal unless there was an eminent threat. So now he found a dimwitted friend and they are introducing a bill to waste more time and ban something that is already banned, and making an issue out of nothing with a law that no one really opposes. Thank you Paultard because I used to think all congresspeople wasted time in the same useless fashion, and now i realize that you are the king **** of useless, pointless, redundant crap, and grandstanding victories over nothing.

    Someone needs to tell the paultard that if he wants to do something about rights and violations of the constitutional freedoms of americans there is this little thing called the patriot act that he needs to put all this effort into killing. No one but a paranoid delusional should be afraid that obama is going to order a drone attack on their house because they watched faux news. however, the patriot act is actually a problem, and it is a problem the Paultard is actually giving a relative pass to while he makes up laws that already exist.

    Rand Paul got the "DIMWITTED" and "paranod delusional" American Civil Libertiies Union (ACLU) and "DIMWITTED" and "paranoid delusional" Amesty International to agree with him.

    I have always stated that Obama is the greatest shill that corporate American and the military industrial complex ever had. We have seen the "left" supporting massive increases in government survelliance, building a massive domestic military police force into the hundreds of thousands, trashing of free speech, clearing for the first time people required to given money to private corporations using the power of government to enforce and collect it, total rejection of free speech, supporting economic and racial bigotry - and over all shifting for the traditional definition of "liberal" to, instead, corporate-totalitrianism.

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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Rand Paul got the "DIMWITTED" and "paranod delusional" American Civil Libertiies Union (ACLU) and "DIMWITTED" and "paranoid delusional" Amesty International to agree with him.
    Nice, but it doesn't change the reality that it still means nothing and was a complete waste of time and effort by the paultard to get something worthless while completely avoiding attacking things he should be like the patriot act.
    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I have always stated that Obama is the greatest shill that corporate American and the military industrial complex ever had. We have seen the "left" supporting massive increases in government survelliance, building a massive domestic military police force into the hundreds of thousands, trashing of free speech, clearing for the first time people required to given money to private corporations using the power of government to enforce and collect it, total rejection of free speech, supporting economic and racial bigotry - and over all shifting for the traditional definition of "liberal" to, instead, corporate-totalitrianism.
    yeah, we know you think obama is Satan himself and completely ignore any role republicans in congress and previous republican presidents had in accomplishing all of that. It still doesn't change the fact the bill doesn't limit drone strikes in any new way, still leaves a huge hole open with undefined terms, and doesn't address any of the existing problems. Obama could be satan himself and the paultard is just a little puppet of his doing nothing and fooling gullible people into thinking he has accomplished something.

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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Nice, but it doesn't change the reality that it still means nothing and was a complete waste of time and effort by the paultard to get something worthless while completely avoiding attacking things he should be like the patriot act.
    Some people can walk and chew gum at the same time.
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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post


    Senator Ted Cruz

    Paul, Cruz, and Lee are bringing back the Bill of Rights to the Senate.

    Seems a bit of over kill. But I have no problem with it since drones could be used against someone that is a imminent threat.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Nice, but it doesn't change the reality that it still means nothing and was a complete waste of time and effort by the paultard to get something worthless while completely avoiding attacking things he should be like the patriot act.


    yeah, we know you think obama is Satan himself and completely ignore any role republicans in congress and previous republican presidents had in accomplishing all of that. It still doesn't change the fact the bill doesn't limit drone strikes in any new way, still leaves a huge hole open with undefined terms, and doesn't address any of the existing problems. Obama could be satan himself and the paultard is just a little puppet of his doing nothing and fooling gullible people into thinking he has accomplished something.

    Yes, everyone knows the ACLU and Amnesty International are just rightwing puppets of the Tea Party.

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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    No first you call the police. If the police use lethal force, then you call a judge. The incident is investigated to determine if what happened was in fact lawful self defense. That is due process. Requiring that evidence be presented when the government takes a life, even if after the fact, is absolutely vital to the rule of law.
    So when it comes to drones, the need for due process can be satisfied after the drone blows the terrorist to kingdom come.
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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So when it comes to drones, the need for due process can be satisfied after the drone blows the terrorist to kingdom come.

    You now enter the theater of the absurd. Due process after a death penalty is executed.

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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    I would like to see drones banned from domestic surveillance - period, and of course as assassination or domestic warfare weapons.

    What is GREATLY lacking in federal laws is privacy protection in general.

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    Re: Cruz, Paul Introduce Bill to Prohibit Drone Killings of U.S. Citizens

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You now enter the theater of the absurd. Due process after a death penalty is executed.
    It's what you said

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    No first you call the police. If the police use lethal force, then you call a judge. The incident is investigated to determine if what happened was in fact lawful self defense. That is due process. Requiring that evidence be presented when the government takes a life, even if after the fact, is absolutely vital to the rule of law.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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