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    Re: Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil'

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You are naive. Our "war on terror" has brought this into the light of day. Why would you doubt it? What do you think those drone strikes are? And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

    Let's see now, I have been a nurse for 25 years. I've seen death and dying, run codes, cleansed bodies of the dead, worked with mental patients, and worked in prisons, and dealt with the violence wrought by those populations. I have traveled to the islamic middle east, and communist Orient. I have studied the law and know the limitations of the powers the US govenment has, and have closely followed the power grab that has been going on last 10 years. I actually know that Bush can't leave this country because he is a war criminal. Yet you think the US president will not use the power to order a hit on Americans on American soil if given the power to do so. And I am naive? O come now. You hve given me a fabulous laugh this morning. Thank you so much, I needed a good one.
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    Re: Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Let's see now, I have been a nurse for 25 years. I've seen death and dying, run codes, cleansed bodies of the dead, worked with mental patients, and worked in prisons, and dealt with the violence wrought by those populations. I have traveled to the islamic middle east, and communist Orient. I have studied the law and know the limitations of the powers the US govenment has, and have closely followed the power grab that has been going on last 10 years. I actually know that Bush can't leave this country because he is a war criminal. Yet you think the US president will not use the power to order a hit on Americans on American soil if given the power to do so. And I am naive? O come now. You given me a fabulous laugh this morning. Thank you so much, I needed a good one.
    Why are you listing all of your supposed qualifications? Where did I say a US President will never use his power to order a hit on Americans on American soil? Glad I gave you a fabulous laugh. You have a strange sense of humor though.
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    Amy Goodman and the other liberal shows will be spouting pro-NATO dogma when Obomber invades Syria, so the last 'Progressive' illusions will dissipate.

    Looks like your ivy league credentials served you well as a State Dept. mouthpiece, aye Maddow?

    What bloody fascists.
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    Re: Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil'

    I see 2 issues here: One - how much can you really trust our govt to tell the truth? I voted for Obama in 2008 but was soon disappointed when he started appointing so many corporate shills/Monsanto people and realized he lied to us. So, there's that. Second, I've followed this whole question for 1 year, 2.5 months since it first started. On Dec. 31, 2011, Obama signed the NDAA bill, which I read. There is a section which authorizes Obama to assasinate Americans with drones. Left out, was whether or not Obama could do this on home soil or not. That has been the question ever since and he never would answer it. So, what does that tell us? That is the reason why Rand Paul, who I never liked but do applaud him for taking this action, filibustered the CIA appointment - he wasn't doing anything until he got his question answered. I read the NDAA bill that was signed. It is, as is most bills these days, stated in such vague terms that I don't think even a lawyer could honestly figure out what it's really saying. This makes me distrust Obama and the govt even more. Not only that, but our due process of law should be enough to convict or clear a person and doesn't need to be abridged NOT ONCE, NOT EVER. Once you start down that slippery slope, it's hard, if not impossible, to turn back. No American should ever be killed without due process and no oversight. Holder says this is constitutional, but he's lying or a complete imbecile. This is probably one of the worst, if not the worst, piece of legislation to come down since 9/11. Ask yourself this: why would a president or govt want to be able to disregard habeas corpus and kill their own citizens without due process? Why bother to pass such a law?

    [URL="http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/03/obama-admin-says-it-can-use-lethal-force-against-americans-us-soil"]

    Yes, the president does have the authority to use military force against American citizens on US soil—but only in "an extraordinary circumstance," Attorney General Eric Holder said in a letter to Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Tuesday.
    "The US Attorney General's refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening," Paul said Tuesday. "It is an affront the constitutional due process rights of all Americans."
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