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Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

calamity said:
After the cabin was set on fire, he took a bullet to the head. Whether it was self inflicted or not has not been 100% verified. But, let's say he did. They still burned the cabin with the intention of burning him alive or forcing him out to be shot dead. They certainly made no attempt to wait him out.
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Nonsense, the cops were specifically reminded "keep your discipline" meaning to not shoot unless necessary. Instead of surrendering, he chose to shoot himself.

And what do you mean "100% verified"? Has anyone claimed to have shot him?
 
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danarhea said:
So what does Rand Paul want? Yesterday, the Obama administration announced they they had the right to use drone strikes on American citizens, on American soil, without due process. Rand Paul is filibustering the nomination of Brennan until Obama makes a promise to uphold the Constitution, and to never deny any American his Constitutional rights.

Today, Rand Paul is a hero. Obama? He's a freakin' goat. I bashed the bejesus out of George Bush when he was in office, for taking a giant crap on the Constitution, but what Obama is doing is something that not even George Bush would have thought of.... No, not even in his wildest wet dreams. Obama is Bush on steroids, and his assault on the Constitution of the United States needs to be stopped. Kudos to Rand Paul for having the balls to take him on.

Article is here.
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His extortion didn't go far enough. All he got was a letter from Holder; what he needs is a letter from each of the SCOTUS judges, or at least one of the (moron) anti-freedom justices like Roberts that says Obama can't kill anyone he wants with drones.
 
ecofarm said:
Nonsense, the cops were specifically reminded "keep your discipline" meaning not to shoot unless necessary. Instead of surrendering, he chose to shoot himself.

And what do you mean "100% verified"? Has anyone claimed to have shot him?
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So the cabin experienced spontaneous combustion? :rolleyes:
 
Geoist said:
I stated: "You bring up terrorists actively engaged in violent activity as if that is what is being debated."

You said: "Actually that is exactly what is being debated."

So please point to me where Senator Paul was debating this.
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Again, both you and Paul are misportraying the situation as if anything Holder said could be reasonably interpreted as allowing the targetting of anyone who is not engaged in combat
 
sangha said:
Again, both you and Paul are misportraying the situation as if anything Holder said could be reasonably interpreted as allowing the targetting of anyone who is not engaged in combat
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Their original definition of "imminent" was sketchy at best which warranted his questions to be answered clearly.
 
Geoist said:
Their original definition of "imminent" was sketchy at best which warranted his questions to be answered clearly.
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It did not warrant a filibuster

His desire to grandstand is what motivated the filibuster
 
sangha said:
It did not warrant a filibuster
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Personal opinion.


His desire to grandstand is what motivated the filibuster
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Assumption without fact. Even if he was (for whatever reason) I really don't care. That is politics.
 
Geoist said:
Personal opinion.
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Since Holder never refused to answer any of Rands questions on this issue, he had no reason to filibuster




Assumption without fact. Even if he was (for whatever reason) I really don't care. That is politics.
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Rand was the only one making assumptions concerning this issue.
 
sangha said:
Since Holder never refused to answer any of Rands questions on this issue, he had no reason to filibuster
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Except he did not answer it sufficiently (not only for Paul but many Americans). Maybe the Newspeak flies for you but it doesn't fly for everyone.




Rand was the only one making assumptions concerning this issue.
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Another assumption.
 
One thing is not in dispute: every halfway intelligent individual on the planet is now wondering why no GOP pol stepped up and called Rand Paul a "terrorist" for his actions.

FYI, to right wingers, rush limbaugh will tell you that he is.
 
sangha said:
Since Holder never refused to answer any of Rands questions on this issue, he had no reason to filibuster






Rand was the only one making assumptions concerning this issue.
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Actually, several Senators made the same assumption, and supported Rand Paul. One of them was Liberal Democrat Ron Wyden. This was a situation where support of the Constitution crossed party lines. It was a beautiful thing to see.
 
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to read your link, but thanks for posting it anyway. I'm hopeful other sources will pick it up.
 
danarhea said:
Actually, several Senators made the same assumption, and supported Rand Paul. One of them was Liberal Democrat Ron Wyden. This was a situation where support of the Constitution crossed party lines. It was a beautiful thing to see.
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No. That just casts some very serious doubts on Wyden's "Liberal" credentials................
 
Bonzai said:
Rand Paul's filibuster was "much ado about nothing"..............................
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Good evening, Bonz.

It raised his personal standing, and it made the Country aware of the problem. That's a good day's work in most people's book. :thumbs:
 
polgara said:
Good evening, Bonz.

It raised his personal standing, and it made the Country aware of the problem. That's a good day's work in most people's book. :thumbs:
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Polgara, what "problem" ? ..................
 
Bonzai said:
Polgara, what "problem" ? ..................
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"Problem" was not the best choice of words I could have made. Sorry.

I meant concern about how CIA nominee Brennan would handle drones being used, if he were forced to make a decision about same, and whether or not Brennan was the correct candidate for the job.
 
sangha said:
The idiot claims "it was just the beginning", but doesn't say anything about what else he will do
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Does Macy's tell Nordstrom's what they got cookin?
 
Bonzai said:
Rand Paul's filibuster was "much ado about nothing"..............................
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Yes, yes, you love your Big Brother.....
 
sangha said:
The idiot claims "it was just the beginning", but doesn't say anything about what else he will do
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He's still figuring out his campaign strategy. ;)
 
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