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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Ahh, I see now.

    But I doubt it. The left hasn't ever liked Obama.
    Really....

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    1. Oh yeah? Have you not read anything I have talked about on this thread or are you just brushing away my words and claiming that I am part of some problem? Just because libertarians see a problem with this or agree with it doesn't mean I have to! It's amazing that only libertarians are even on this thread. I see very few other leanings on this thread.

    2. It is you who assume that I haven't given these any thought for some strange reason. Can't take criticism much?

    3. Really? Then why did your heroes the founding fathers create one? Oh yea and questioning the government is amazing even if it is a silly hypothetical open ended scenario....

    1) You Kidding me? I've seen conservatives, centrists, and liberals comment on this thread agreeing with Rand Paul. I'm not stating you have to agree, but you blindly attack my views without any cause...I will answer those attacks. You want to label Libertarians as "paultards" or some other derogatory name...then I have no issue coming right back at you with that same verbosity.

    2) I can take constructive criticism all day long. I don't take blind attacks and name calling from anyone.

    3) They created a government to be controlled by the people. The people who created our government always had a distrust of centralized government and the power they try to hold. That is basic US History. Questioning the government and demanding transparency are part of it. Making sure the government doesn't infringe on our right or create an avenue for a future administration to do it is part of how we keep a check on their power.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Are you a militant poliical party affiliation partisan? I'm not.
    Then you have nothing to worry about
    There's no greater irony than a Trump supporter pointing out hypocrisy; Unless it's Trump himself.

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    3) They created a government to be controlled by the people. The people who created our government always had a distrust of centralized government and the power they try to hold. That is basic US History. Questioning the government and demanding transparency are part of it. Making sure the government doesn't infringe on our right or create an avenue for a future administration to do it is part of how we keep a check on their power.
    So is this the one where politicians are reptilians or robots? Because as far as I am aware, politicians are people. If you have evidence to suggest otherwise please show me!
    There's no greater irony than a Trump supporter pointing out hypocrisy; Unless it's Trump himself.

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    This is a different response than Holder's letter of 4-March. If Holder's new letter is as reported I withdraw my objection

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well, I was referring to what the rest of us mean when we say 'left', that being the democrat party (and their fringe). If you're going to define "the left" as socialists and communists, to the exclusion of the democrat party, then I don't see the point in your argument at all and it certainly has no bearing whatsoever upon mine.
    I understand that there's a tendency amongst many to label anyone that supports Obama as "the left". It is based on misrepresentation that Obama himself is a leftist of some type, and the mistaken notion that if you're not a typical rightwinger in every respect, then you're a leftist. Heck, I've seen people on DP label republicans like McCain and Romney as "liberals".

    And while the term "leftist" does include socialists and communists, it is not limited to those two groups. I think of "leftists" as those people who's position are further to the left of "center-left" (ie wishy-washy "liberals")
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There is NO issue of using deadly force against those doing an attack nor against those imminently undertaking one.

    This is the issue. You (or another American sitting beside you) are dining at a sidewalk cafe in San Francisco overlooking the bay. The government - accurately or inaccurately - believes you are planning a terrorist attack in the future. Does the Executive Branch of government have the Constitutional authority to rush in an armed drone to kill you (or the person beside you)?
    According to Holder, "No"


    The Executive Branch and its agencies say yes
    You are lying.

    Holder clarifies drone strike policy on U.S. soil

    "It has come to my attention that you have now asked an additional question: Does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil? The answer to that question is no."
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    So is this the one where politicians are reptilians or robots? Because as far as I am aware, politicians are people. If you have evidence to suggest otherwise please show me!
    Politicians are people who have power and a responsibility....when they abuse it or misuse it....the private citizen has a right to object and fight that misuse of power.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    This is a different response than Holder's letter of 4-March. If Holder's new letter is as reported I withdraw my objection
    Different? Yes, in that it clarifies his and the govts position. However, it in no way contradicts what he said in the earlier letter.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Politicians are people who have power and a responsibility....when they abuse it or misuse it....the private citizen has a right to object and fight that misuse of power.
    Rand Paul is a politician who is just trying to spread his silly ideas exactly like his father. I have no idea why you hold him to a higher standard than Obama just because he says what you like to hear.
    There's no greater irony than a Trump supporter pointing out hypocrisy; Unless it's Trump himself.

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