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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I wouldn't mind a review of the LAWS governing imminent threat in counter-terrorism but adding drones to the mix isn't a game changer.
    The govt has had anti-aircraft missiles deployed in order to protect the White House from a terrorist attack by air. This military defense has been public knowledge for many years. The use of drones for similar purposes is just adding another mode of military defense. Since the anti-aircraft missiles didn't raise an uproar, I don't see why drones are giving Rand the vapors.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, for the most part, the left opposes his drone policies.
    The Fringe Spring, when the air is fresh and Obama is gettin' thrown under the bus by his supporters.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The Fringe Spring, when the air is fresh and Obama is gettin' thrown under the bus by his supporters.
    What you're smelling is the bull **** the right has been spreading around concerning this issue
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Why don't you read the actual letter that Rand is getting his panties in a wad over?
    It also is avoidances, memorandums and statements by Holder and Obama - who declared he hasn't had any American in the USA killed with a drone yet.

    Why doesn't the President simply say, "Absolutely we will not pre-emptively use drones to kill Americans in the USA."

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The govt has had anti-aircraft missiles deployed in order to protect the White House from a terrorist attack by air. This military defense has been public knowledge for many years. The use of drones for similar purposes is just adding another mode of military defense. Since the anti-aircraft missiles didn't raise an uproar, I don't see why drones are giving Rand the vapors.
    Because the question, as I understand it, isn't about using drones to stop an attack in progress. It's about killing people based on the suspicion that they're a threat without due process. That strikes me as a horse of a completely different color.

    Paul asked whether or not the executive had the legal authority to kill American citizens on American soil. Holder evaded and simply said they don't plan on doing so.

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It also is avoidances, memorandums and statements by Holder and Obama - who declared he hasn't had any American in the USA killed with a drone yet.
    The letter specifically states that the usee of drones on US soil would be limited to preventing unusual acts like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    What you're smelling is the bull **** the right has been spreading around concerning this issue
    And hearing the now silence from the left about this.

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    What you're smelling is the bull **** the right has been spreading around concerning this issue
    I'm just sayin', one more hawkish move and it's "Enough Obama the Warmonger, who's next!"

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Because the question, as I understand it, isn't about using drones to stop an attack in progress.
    Not really. Though the question Rand asked was not limited to any particular circumstance, the answer given by Holder clearly does limit the use of drones to only the most exceptional circumstances and does limit itself to attacks in progress.


    It's about killing people based on the suspicion that they're a threat without due process. That strikes me as a horse of a completely different color.

    Paul asked whether or not the executive had the legal authority to kill American citizens on American soil. Holder evaded and simply said they don't plan on doing so.
    No, the letter clearly does not allow killing people based on suspicion. That is just hysterical BS
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    And hearing the now silence from the left about this.
    You need to lower the volume on your ear buds
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