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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If you fail to see the connection between John Brennan and the counterintelligence use of drones both in this administration and the Bush administration then you don't know anything about John Brennan. Mr. Brennan is the perfect person to bring to a head the issue of this administration's expanded use of drones and the suggestion that drones may be used in the US to murder one or more US citizens. It is doubly important since drone technology was first developed as part of military weapons development and strategy and has been taken over by the CIA as a tool for counterintelligence.

    One of the prime enemies of a strong, vibrant democracy is an ignorant and disinterested public.
    Brennan stated he does believe the CIA has the authority to kill an American on American soil with a drone.

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Brennan stated he does believe the CIA has the authority to kill an American on American soil with a drone.
    Exactly - tell your compatriots - it's a prime reason why the man is unfit to lead the CIA and a perfect reason to filibuster his nomination in the manner Paul did to bring the issue to the consciousness of the American people.

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Or Obama can clarify what he believes the limits on his power are by answering a simple question:

    Do you, Mr. President, believe you and your administration have the authority to kill by drone an American citizen without due process on American soil?

    The obvious answer is NO, yet all we hear from the WH is silence. Why do you defend a WH that refuses to state what the LIMITS of it's power are?
    But the answer isn't as simple as no. Many on here have said they welcome the use of a drone strike on a terrorist that has hijacked an airplane or something else. The vehicle that is used by the terrorist to carry out the attack will no doubt have American Citizens on it. Eric Holder said they would only use the drones in that situation. Which has yet to happen! I have no idea what else you want to hear.

    This administration has a way with words that tries to keep everything neutral so that it doesn't come back to bite Obama in the *ss. That is true, but if you actually listen to what Holder said, he has already answered your question. The reason Holder hasn't answered the question, "Does the President have the right to target US Citizens on American soil?" with a simple answer like NO. is because this administration believes that there are home grown domestic terrorists here in the US. Obama has warned us about this since 2008. If he answered no, to that question, then he couldn't target those terrorists with drones.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Brennan stated he does believe the CIA has the authority to kill an American on American soil with a drone.
    Exactly, the CIA has no authority on this matter, multiple CIA sources have confirmed this. That authority rests with Congress.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    How do you get due process when you are getting shot out of the sky? Just wondering..

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Exactly, the CIA has no authority on this matter, multiple CIA sources have confirmed this. That authority rests with Congress.
    Do think a guy that thinks like Brennan does should have any sort of power? Yes or no.

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How do you get due process when you are getting shot out of the sky? Just wondering..
    We should not allow holder to get away this this form of a deflection.

    the president has the authority to use military force to stop an attack against this country, such as when planes are destroying the Pentagon.

    drone, or manned fighter jet makes little difference at that point

    The issue is using drones to carry out kills on Americans like we have done over seas.

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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do think a guy that thinks like Brennan does should have any sort of power? Yes or no.
    I really don't care or really understand what you mean by power? Brennan of course will have power when he gets in. Are you asking should the CIA have drone access? Yes and I believe they already do. If you are asking should the CIA have the same power Obama wants to target US citizens that are suspected as terrorists? I think that power should be saved for the President and Congress.
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    I really don't care or really understand what you mean by power? Brennan of course will have power when he gets in. Are you asking should the CIA have drone access? Yes and I believe they already do. If you are asking should the CIA have the same power Obama wants to target US citizens that are suspected as terrorists? I think that power should be saved for the President and Congress.
    So you are in favor of drone attacks on suspected terrorist that are American citizens? Not proven, but suspected?
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    Re: Senator Rand Paul's Epic Filibuster: Reads 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I disagree with the drone strikes in the US.

    The filibuster has always struck me as childish, though.

    Is nobody else worried about these warrantless drone strikes?

    No due process is a very bad thing for Americans.

    How else to raise the issue and public awareness of it? Propose a bill that the military and White House get killed in committee?

    Rand Paul just put himself to the clear libertarian and Republican-right forefront, and on an issue that many "liberals" agree with.

    His overall pitch is that while people can disagree on economics completely, people should be unified on fundamental basic rights as citizens - and that such rights should be the foremost issues to people even over economic issues.

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