"If I take death into my life, acknowledge it, and face it squarely, I will free myself from the anxiety of death and the pettiness of life - and only then will I be free to become myself." ~ Martin Heidegger
“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump
2. I could not disagree more. If the "tip" tells you McVeigh is heading to a federal building with a truckload of explosives, then LEO needs to stop him and arrest him, not send a drone up in the sky to blast him to kingdom come.
He should have read "Game Change" instead.
Think if Trump get elected how much resistance he will face with in all phases of our country from people to military to politicians. He must not win.
"Men did not make the earth ... it is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice
It's amazing that a person questioning the authority and scope of the Executive Branch to deprive people of their rights of due process, and potentially take unilateral military action against U.S. Citizens without judicial review, is insulted somehow for "playing to the base" of the Republican party. Turn back the dial 4 to 5 years ago and you had those on the other side who now claim that this sort of thing is just "playing to the base" demanding trails, making accusations of war crimes, declaring a person fascist, holding giant marches, and other such things on issues they felt wrongly extended the scope of the Executive, denied people due process, and lack of judicial review.
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
I believe AG Holder's testimony has been twisted to the point of breaking.
Grandstanding Sen. Paul asked a series of what-ifs and Holder testified that wouldn't happen, only in an imminent threat would a drone strike be sanctioned.
Some now wail that the Administration has some newly increased right to 'slaughter' Citizens without due process.
But let's look at that claim.
As it stands now if a US Citizen is part of a highjack crew to fly an airliner into a high value target, the military will attempt to intercept the plane, which means shoot it down killing ALL onboard.
Not a lot of 'due process' involved
When asked if a drone strike would be authorized on a suspect sitting in a coffee shop with no imminent threat, what we routinely do overseas, the answer was a very firm- NO.
A cop can kill anyone he deems an imminent threat without 'due process', so can a CCW.
So I see Sen Paul's stunt as little more than that. He and his party can hold hearing on drone use and bring it into the open- a move I think is long overdo- rather than attempt a pretty pitiful attempt to block the CIA director from being confirmed- that is going to happen.
Now on the McVeigh example. His truck bomb was parked infront of a building not under it and it still blew off the front half and sent shrapnel a city block away. Suppose enough cops could be marshaled on the road to form an effective road block. How many of them would die if Tim decided to detonate?
I'd say the problem isn't drones but rather the basic new laws counter-terrorism operates under in this country.
Last edited by danarhea; 03-07-13 at 09:47 AM.
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