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School Allegedly Fires Woman for Premarital Sex Then Offers Her Job to Co-Fornicator

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THIS is what I would call "hypocrisy"

School Allegedly Fires Woman for Premarital Sex Then Offers Her Job to Co-Fornicator

Sadly, it's fairly common to see stories about Christian schools firing pregnant women because they weren't married when they got that way, a choice that I like to characterize as incentivizing abortion as a way for women to keep their jobs. But this latest story about Teri James suing her former employer San Diego Christian College for allegedly firing her upon discovering her pregnancy has a little extra special sauce added to it. No, not because Gloria Allred is the lawyer, meaning that everyone gets to enjoy a weepy press conference about it. It's because of who the school allegedly decided to offer the woman's job to after firing her: "After James lost her job, she claims the school offered a position to her now-husband, even though they were aware he'd had sex before getting married, too."
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Please note the qualifier that follows the above paragraph

"If true, . . ."
 
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two things to consider here: 1) this is what she is claiming 2) In his case, short of seeing him actually in the act, there is plausible deniability. Hers, not so much.
 
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This isn't very surprising. They are only well founded in their moral BS when they want to be. The bible makes it very clear that women are to be treated with contempt. This was the christian thing to do.

1 Timothy 2:11-12
New International Version (NIV)
11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
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If you're a woman who has pre-marital sex, you're a slut, if you're a man, you're highly employable at christian universities.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
This isn't very surprising. They are only well founded in their moral BS when they want to be. The bible makes it very clear that women are to be treated with contempt. This was the christian thing to do.



If you're a woman who has pre-marital sex, you're a slut, if you're a man, you're highly employable at christian universities.
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Other than your raging bigoted hatred of Christians, back up your last sentence. I say you're message is a lie.
 
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What a find!!!

This story has everything the endlessly shrieking atheists and homosexuals love so much: Sex and an attack on Christianity! What more could they ask for in their endless quest to hurt others with ridicule of a faith that they themselves lack and cannot understand. They absolutely hate the fact that so many millions of others find happiness in their faith and in their endless hatred and rage, they are determined to destroy that.

I don't believe they can be helped.
 
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Somerville said:
THIS is what I would call "hypocrisy"



Please note the qualifier that follows the above paragraph

"If true, . . ."
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If what is reported is true, I think she may very well have a good discrimination case. But it's going to be hard to prove.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
two things to consider here: 1) this is what she is claiming 2) In his case, short of seeing him actually in the act, there is plausible deniability. Hers, not so much.
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That's reeeaaally stretching plausible deniability. It's his kid.
 
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Ikari said:
If what is reported is true, I think she may very well have a good discrimination case. But it's going to be hard to prove.
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It would be easy to prove that he did her with a paternity test. What she's saying is she got fired for having sex with him. Basically if he's the father, it proves that he also had premarital sex, but was treated differently.
 
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Ray410 said:
What a find!!!

This story has everything the endlessly shrieking atheists and homosexuals love so much: Sex and an attack on Christianity! What more could they ask for in their endless quest to hurt others with ridicule of a faith that they themselves lack and cannot understand. They absolutely hate the fact that so many millions of others find happiness in their faith and in their endless hatred and rage, they are determined to destroy that.

I don't believe they can be helped.
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Tell us more about how it's so unfair that liberals criticize this blatant hypocrisy and misogyny!

And then tell us what you think about Muslims.
 
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Deuce said:
That's reeeaaally stretching plausible deniability. It's his kid.
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I'm not sure how it's stretching anything when he isn't pregnant.
 
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rocket88 said:
It would be easy to prove that he did her with a paternity test. What she's saying is she got fired for having sex with him. Basically if he's the father, it proves that he also had premarital sex, but was treated differently.
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I think the real contention would be proving that the school knew he was the father when they made the offer of employment to her now husband.
 
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Ray410 said:
What a find!!!

This story has everything the endlessly shrieking atheists and homosexuals love so much: Sex and an attack on Christianity! What more could they ask for in their endless quest to hurt others with ridicule of a faith that they themselves lack and cannot understand. They absolutely hate the fact that so many millions of others find happiness in their faith and in their endless hatred and rage, they are determined to destroy that.

I don't believe they can be helped.
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I'm sorry, what do homosexuals have to do with this? Last I checked, a man and a woman having sex wasn't gay.

I'm not an atheist, but I still think it's wrong to have different rules for different genders. What religion are you that doesn't teach that? Not Christian, that's for sure.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
I'm not sure how it's stretching anything when he isn't pregnant.
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So you're assuming that he's not the father of the child. Even though he acknowledges it.

A simple paternity test would prove that he had sex with her.
 
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rocket88 said:
It would be easy to prove that he did her with a paternity test.
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Him being the father isn't the same as them knowing he was the father. With her, they had clear and undeniable proof based on the fact that she was pregnant. Short of him being just as open about his sex life with them, it's hard to establish they had the same level of knowledge about his activities.


rocket88 said:
What she's saying is she got fired for having sex with him. Basically if he's the father, it proves that he also had premarital sex, but was treated differently.
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her saying "i had sex with that guy" isn't the same level of proof that someone was having sex as "I am pregnant".
 
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Ikari said:
I think the real contention would be proving that the school knew he was the father when they made the offer of employment to her now husband.
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Perhaps, but then why wasn't the offer withdrawn and why wasn't he fired when they found out?
 
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One factor here. If the story is true, the woman was fired for violating her signed contract to not engage while employed by the school. Nothing about prior acts. While the contract seems to me silly, it is nevertheless a contract. Her now husband did not violate that contract in that he was not so employed and was married at the time of the job solicitation.

From my personal standpoint, the whole argument is ridiculous on both sides.
 
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rocket88 said:
It would be easy to prove that he did her with a paternity test. What she's saying is she got fired for having sex with him. Basically if he's the father, it proves that he also had premarital sex, but was treated differently.
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Very true. Hopefully she'll take this to the bank.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Him being the father isn't the same as them knowing he was the father. With her, they had clear and undeniable proof based on the fact that she was pregnant. Short of him being just as open about his sex life with them, it's hard to establish they had the same level of knowledge about his activities.
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But when they found out he was the father, wouldn't they withdraw their job offer? Or fire him?



her saying "i had sex with that guy" isn't the same level of proof that someone was having sex as "I am pregnant".
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He's not denying it. Besides, if he's the father, it proves that he had sex with her. Unless it's some sort of miracle.
 
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joko104 said:
Other than your raging bigoted hatred of Christians, back up your last sentence. I say you're message is a lie.
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The situation backed it up.
 
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rocket88 said:
So you're assuming that he's not the father of the child.
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No, I am doing nothing of the sort. I am highlighting that being pregnant is different than "I had sex with that guy". With the later, you simply have an accusation against someone. The former is clear and irrefutable evidence

Even though he acknowledges it.
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The obvious question to ask her was "were they aware of this" and was it something "he was open with them about". Because they were aware that she was pregnant, and you can't really deny having sex after such is established

A simple paternity test would prove that he had sex with her.
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Which says **** all about what they knew and didn't know.
 
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Your Star said:
Very true. Hopefully she'll take this to the bank.
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You two seem mistaken on what a paternity test would establish here
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
You two seem mistaken on what a paternity test would establish here
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It would establish that he is also guilty of premarital sex. Given that, wouldn't they withdraw the job offer after finding out?
 
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Ikari said:
If what is reported is true, I think she may very well have a good discrimination case. But it's going to be hard to prove.
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Very hard to prove.
 
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rocket88 said:
But when they found out he was the father, wouldn't they withdraw their job offer? Or fire him?
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I can't really answer about details I don't have sweety plumbs (the huff po link isn't loading, so I am unsure if it's mentioned there)





He's not denying it. Besides, if he's the father, it proves that he had sex with her. Unless it's some sort of miracle.
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You should really think about this for a minute: him being the father isn't the same as them having such knowledge. Him not denying it now isn't the same as him telling them :it is my child, at the time of the incident
 
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rocket88 said:
It would establish that he is also guilty of premarital sex.
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Yes, now, not at the time of the interview ...


Given that, wouldn't they withdraw the job offer after finding out?
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was the offer even available when they did? If you don't know, why not go find out before asking me such questions?
 
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