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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    I don't think this is clear. What we need to see is the email that was quoted, not the e-mail doing the quoting. In other words, what did APHIS say? That's the important point. What this fellow says they said may or may not be what they actually said.
    Obviously there is no way for me to know, but it sure as heck seems obvious that it was a quote from an email response. We do it at my place of employment all the time (I assume most people do). Quote a response inside the email and change the font/color - just as was done in Brown's email.

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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    My anger? My side?

    Lady, my "side" is that of the American people and my anger is that our bloated, self serving government is flexing its muscles trying to prove that it is entirely indispensable....and that's dangerous.
    Oh give me a break, we all know you side with the republicans. Don't try to pretend to be neutral. You don't like obama, and you love the republican rhetoric. I can see it to a certain extent. They go after obama who is a powerful politician which makes him pretty much a scumbag. they put on a pretty good show on tking on the liberals. the problem is that they are part of the problem, which you seem to ignore. granted I preferred obama to romney, but i was well aware it was a choice between **** and **** with a sprinkling of hope. they are both still piles of ****, and I did not put much faith in the hope so I am not terribly disappointed to find obama really did not grow a backbone. i guess my point is that after every time the reps have failed and caved how can you still have this great hope of a huge victory?

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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I think you are mistaken here.. It sounds as if they had a teleconference. During that teleconference Mr Brown asked a question about flexibility. No one on that teleconference knew the answer, so they forwarded the question (probably via email) APHIS BPAS. He then quoted the reply he recieved from APHIS BPAS.
    if it was in an email then the original email should be quoted rather than the selected OOC line that the article was based upon.

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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    Quote Originally Posted by buck
    Obviously there is no way for me to know, but it sure as heck seems obvious that it was a quote from an email response. We do it at my place of employment all the time (I assume most people do). Quote a response inside the email and change the font/color - just as was done in Brown's email.
    I guess I would respond with two points:

    1) Indeed, there is no way for you or any of us to know. We should therefore withold judgment until more conclusive evidence emerges.

    2) Just as importantly: suppose this is a direct quote. If this appears as part of a longer e-mail, the meaning of the quoted bit might change completely when placed back in context. I agree the word "impact" used toward the end of the quoted section seems a little suspect, but then again, which one of us hasn't bungled with the correct word to use?

    All of this said, I repeat what I said after the quoted post. If it turns out that an administration official, someone in Congress, or whoever, is saying that the spending cuts ought to be made to hurt people as much as possible, they ought to be fired at the very least. I wouldn't care if it was the President, or whoever. But, I would point out that it's unlikely this guy got an e-mail directly from the President. If other e-mails insinuating the same sort of thing appear in other agencies across multiple secretariats, that increases the likelihood such orders come from higher up.

    Despite my remarks, I am absolutely disgusted with our government in general. I'm none too happy with Obama, and even less happy with Congress. It seems to me that there are obvious solutions to our problems that simply are not getting any play at all. Austerity measures have done nothing to help the economies of countries in which they've been tried so far. I fear we are watching our nation unravel...and I don't just say that because of the spending cuts. Whether the process can be stopped is anyone's guess at this point.

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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    This is another unsubstantuated republican dirty trick, much like they tried to smear Menendez with.

    Long-time escort confirms Senator Bob Menendez paid her for sex | The Daily Caller

    Recently the witness has recanted and has said that she was paid to lie.

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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised - Washington Times


    Are you freaking kidding me? So the simple premise would be "We told them it was going to be bad so make sure it IS bad."?

    And they go on to say, essentially, "We are trying to make it as painless as possible but we probably won't be able to inspect meat so that will be in short supply."

    Man, those of you who still believe that a gigantic government is your friend had better be paying attention because this is the antithesis of governance and is running headlong into "ruling".
    Better be paying attention?

    Have you picked up a MSM newspaper lately? The man who is currently trying to make it hurt is being framed as the hero.

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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    Good. I hope it f'n hurts. I hope it hurts like all hell, I hope the public grows a collective brain and pushes the Dems out of Senate and elects a sensible POTUS, and I hope that they work together to actually BALANCE something along the lines of a budget.

    The simple truth is that if you think sequestration hurts, wait until you feel someone actually trying to push for an end to deficit spending and trade imbalances. At least if you can pour salt on the 2.3%, you can kind of acclimate yourself to the real pain that comes along when these spoiled entitlement babies have to actually do something for themselves and not knock on the doors of the White House and rattle a tin cup.

    Make it hurt.

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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    I think the point of this whole battle is to establish today's government spending levels as a base line for minimum spending. Once that is established, the WH can use that base line to demonize anyone that tries to implement real cuts and pressure the opposition into raising taxes with the most likely targets being "the rich" and businesses.
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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Good. I hope it f'n hurts. I hope it hurts like all hell, I hope the public grows a collective brain and pushes the Dems out of Senate and elects a sensible POTUS, and I hope that they work together to actually BALANCE something along the lines of a budget.

    The simple truth is that if you think sequestration hurts, wait until you feel someone actually trying to push for an end to deficit spending and trade imbalances. At least if you can pour salt on the 2.3%, you can kind of acclimate yourself to the real pain that comes along when these spoiled entitlement babies have to actually do something for themselves and not knock on the doors of the White House and rattle a tin cup.

    Make it hurt.
    maybe if it hurts enough the partisan fans on both sides will wake up and realize removing either party doesn't help when the other party is just as corrupt, wasteful, and happy to take your tax money. This idea that there is some fiscal responsibility on the side of the republicans is laughable. part of the problem is that people beleife that picking one side or the other matters. this allows them to live in the fantasy world where the overwhelming victory of either side will solve the country's problems.

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    Re: Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    maybe if it hurts enough the partisan fans on both sides will wake up and realize removing either party doesn't help when the other party is just as corrupt, wasteful, and happy to take your tax money. This idea that there is some fiscal responsibility on the side of the republicans is laughable. part of the problem is that people beleife that picking one side or the other matters. this allows them to live in the fantasy world where the overwhelming victory of either side will solve the country's problems.
    I never said that Republicans were blameless, but I tend to focus on the 80% fault of the Dems and less about the 20% fault of Repubs. Now if we had a mass exodus election where Republicans were a supermajority, with a Republican POTUS, and things were still this bad...I'd climb on the other soapbox. God knows I railed against Bush 43 enough - not for "problems" the ignorant populace blamed on him fraudulently, but for real things he did that were a travesty. Things like No Child Left Behind, Department of Homeland Security, and TSA come to mind.

    I'll wait for the boat to rock until one side seems sensible. The problem is that Democrats these days are complete idiots. Reagan did great things while in office, and he did it with a Democratic majority. Back then, they actually had an IQ worth writing about. These Vietnam burnouts today though...God help them.

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