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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I never said we shouldn't point out bad cops. But there are others on this thread that lump all of them into the same category. You read the thread correct?
    When the whole mechanism allows for everything to be handled internally and even the voice of "white knight" (as in noble hero not race based) cops goes nowhere then the whole has elements catering to bad. When you look for an apple do you look for a completely clean one or shrug off the sparse spots of worm infestation?

    I vote all cops have headbands with cameras that are fully charged at the start of shift and can never be turned off. The burden of "that cop planted evidence" and stuff shouldnt be on potential victims in controlled situations. It should be on the cops claiming that they found the evidence their to begin with.

    Sounds a bit silly but its a solution. I vote all politicians wear these "Muse of History" headbands also.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    There are many problems with the criminal justice system. This highlights one of them. Police officers generally may commit perjury without any risk whatsoever.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    It really bugs me to hear all of the cop hatred on this website. Those guys do a hard job, with garbage hours, for very minimal pay. And they have to deal with idiots like some that I've read on this website. Sure, there are a few crooked ones. Name a profession that doesn't have a few crooked ones. Just because there are a few crooked ones doesn't mean we should lump them all together. Most of these guys are doing more of a service to our country than active duty servicemembers are IMO. These guys actually protect citizens from the bad guys unlike us who go galavanting around the world fighting people who would allegedly leave their caves to bomb us if we didn't. Stop being a bunch of haters and appreciate the job done by these guys.
    I think you are missing the point.

    I generally come down on the side of LE, for the reasons you mention.

    But I am adamantly opposed to the common practise of NOT dealing with police misbehavior when it happens.

    I've talked to cops about this, and what they say is its about image more than anything. Confidence and "respect". Circling the wagons, etc.

    In practise, imo, it actually erodes the relationship between police and the communities they serve. It only takes one instance of blatant coverup that touches someone you know to leave a pretty sour tast permanently in your mouth.

    And all it would take to correct this problem is for those who hold us accountable for doing wrong to be held accountable when THEY do wrong. Yet no one I know has ever received a gram of satisfaction when attempting to address police misconduct through official channels. No official reprimands, apologies, nothin'.

    And then there's the cop who passed me yesterday talking on a cellphone and making a right turn on a red without signaling or stopping. Just kinda says "**** you!", ya know?
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    When the whole mechanism allows for everything to be handled internally and even the voice of "white knight" (as in noble hero not race based) cops goes nowhere then the whole has elements catering to bad. When you look for an apple do you look for a completely clean one or shrug off the sparse spots of worm infestation?

    I vote all cops have headbands with cameras that are fully charged at the start of shift and can never be turned off. The burden of "that cop planted evidence" and stuff shouldnt be on potential victims in controlled situations. It should be on the cops claiming that they found the evidence their to begin with.

    Sounds a bit silly but its a solution. I vote all politicians wear these "Muse of History" headbands also.
    Almost sounds good.

    But it eliminates "positive" discretion. I've been let off with a verbal warning more than once.

    I think a little discretion is a good thing, as long as it isn't abused.

    The "system" isn't always the best solution. Sometimes it's the worst.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You mean the police and prosecutors fabricated evidence and testimony in order to attempt a conviction of an innocent person? Say it ain't so. I can't speak for New York, but here in Houston, Texas, that's called Official Oppression, and it's a felony.

    Article is here.
    What....cops lied to try to get a conviction. Say it's not so! Will anything happen to the cops? You know false testimony and such? Bearing false witness under oath is illegal.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Godwinned by post 3! Well done!
    The police pre-arrest potential trouble makers before political conventions. Is it "Godwinned" if it's true?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What....cops lied to try to get a conviction. Say it's not so! Will anything happen to the cops? You know false testimony and such? Bearing false witness under oath is illegal.
    Nothing will happen to the cops in this life, but Jesus sees all.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Nothing will happen to the cops in this life, but Jesus sees all.
    Hahahahah....jebus.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Every single cop and politician should be required to wear one of these. Cops while on duty and politicians 24/7 throughout their whole career.



    Security version that can fit into helmets and be more field friendly of course.
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