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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Instead, just screw it, stop policing demonstrations. Let them have at it and warn the rest of the public off the streets if they care for their safety. Let the mob have the town. It's clear from the video, they can't pay police enough to make that a worthwhile job.

    Btw, that was no peacable assembly.
    Was anyone attacked?
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Was anyone attacked?
    I couldn't tell from the video, and I wasn't there. But it was easy to tell from the video the crowd was not peaceable. They were loud and pushing at and beyond the police.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No, don't let the mob have the town, but while you are out there protecting and serving, stop trying to frame innocent people for crimes they did not commit.
    That just strains credulity. I'm so sure they had so much time on their hands they were free to just pick someone at out of the crowd to charge with a randomly selected crime. They could have chosen virtually any of those yahoos and charged them with failure to disperse or public disorderly, but instead they pick out this one fellow and charge him with assault?

    Occam's Razor.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I couldn't tell from the video, and I wasn't there. But it was easy to tell from the video the crowd was not peaceable. They were loud and pushing at and beyond the police.
    Being loud =/= not peaceable in legal terms when it comes to protests. If it did then no protest would ever be allowed.

    And I saw the police pushing far more than those behind the netting. As sangha pointed out several people fell due to the police pushing them.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That just strains credulity. I'm so sure they had so much time on their hands they were free to just pick someone at out of the crowd to charge with a randomly selected crime. They could have chosen virtually any of those yahoos and charged them with failure to disperse or public disorderly, but instead they pick out this one fellow and charge him with assault?

    Occam's Razor.
    So...what happened to that footage from the police officer that was recording all of it?
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Being loud =/= not peaceable in legal terms when it comes to protests. If it did then no protest would ever be allowed.

    And I saw the police pushing far more than those behind the netting. As sangha pointed out several people fell due to the police pushing them.
    Once again, this took place well after the legal protest was done. They had been ordered to disperse already. This was a mob having it's way.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, this took place well after the legal protest was done. They had been ordered to disperse already. This was a mob having it's way.
    Last I knew there was no time limit on how long a protest can be held in the Constitution. And being told to disperse is a violation of thier right to peaceably assemble so they can ignore it since cops must uphold ALL the law, not just those which they are told to uphold.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So...what happened to that footage from the police officer that was recording all of it?
    Got me, maybe it was damaged by the crowd, maybe the officer subsequently recorded over the media with his GF's sex tape and didn't want to admit to it. There may be something else going on with the recording that even the judge thinks should be kept under wraps for now (he met with the TARC officer in chambers).

    But nothing in that video in the article shows the fellow guilty or innocent.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Last I knew there was no time limit on how long a protest can be held in the Constitution. And being told to disperse is a violation of thier right to peaceably assemble so they can ignore it since cops must uphold ALL the law, not just those which they are told to uphold.
    No, not how it works. If you feel your rights are being violated, you disperse and then take it to court. And yes, a permit can be required for a protest, that passes the constitutional muster (at least the courts seem to believe it does). There's a thin line between a protest and a mob, between peaceable assembly and a trespassing disturbance.

    Others have the same right to freely move about their city, your right to protest is balanced against that and sometimes it's time for you to move on and let others enjoy their rights.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    regardless of any other concerns( political or otherwise), it's a good thing that an innocent person is free.

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