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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    The Occupy movement was a stupid embarrassment and it's over.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you watch the video, the blanket thing they were trying to coral the protesters with, with officers behind it, was charged (by who we don't see) BEFORE he was shown on the ground. That may have been how he got on the ground in the first place.

    And he was already guilty of failure to disperse, just as the rest of the crowd. Add in disorderly conduct and creating a public disturbance.
    I saw no one charging.

    And the guy was not charged with any of that other stuff.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I saw no one charging.

    And the guy was not charged with any of that other stuff.
    Because you can't see squat from that video. The soft barrier is being held up, it bulges and the cops holding it are pushed back. That wasn't a strong wind that did that. From the video we don't see who did that, but the cops there do.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Because you can't see squat from that video. The soft barrier is being held up, it bulges and the cops holding it are pushed back. That wasn't a strong wind that did that. From the video we don't see who did that, but the cops there do.
    OH so since the crowd behind that netting surges forward you think that the guy charged? Because I did see the crowd surge. But I saw no one charge.

    BTW, just how exactly does one "charge" past a netting designed to hold people? Wouldn't the netting sort of stop any such charges, assuming that there was one of course.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    OH so since the crowd behind that netting surges forward you think that the guy charged? Because I did see the crowd surge. But I saw no one charge.

    BTW, just how exactly does one "charge" past a netting designed to hold people? Wouldn't the netting sort of stop any such charges, assuming that there was one of course.
    Once again, none of those questions can be answered with that video. And how do you know from that video the crowd surged, how do you distinquish a surge from a charge? And no one said he charged past the netting, just that he charged into an officer (who could have been one of the ones holding the netting).

    Either way, the video doesn't show squat that illuminates his guilt or innocence.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    OH so since the crowd behind that netting surges forward you think that the guy charged? Because I did see the crowd surge. But I saw no one charge.

    BTW, just how exactly does one "charge" past a netting designed to hold people? Wouldn't the netting sort of stop any such charges, assuming that there was one of course.
    What he calls "the crowd surging", I call "people falling backwards because the cops pushed them"

    Watch the video again. The cops at the front end of the netting push the crowd back, and they fall down as a result
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You mean the police and prosecutors fabricated evidence and testimony in order to attempt a conviction of an innocent person? Say it ain't so. I can't speak for New York, but here in Houston, Texas, that's called Official Oppression, and it's a felony.

    Article is here.
    What I find troubling is the evidence of the Officer Bosco, who is clearly seen in the shot with his arm way up in the air with a video camera clearly visible and yet he claims not to have shot any video that night, that is if the story itself is entirely true but as of yet I have seen no evidence to the contrary. I do not believe this officer when he says he has no video of that night, when he is clearly shown using a video camera. Now if there was no footage of the incident, the police should have just said so instead of claiming no footage exists because that I find hard to believe.

    Because I took a few stills from the video that exonerated the suspect

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    I blacked out the faces of the officers because they are not the issue here, what is the issue is that in each picture you can see an officer with a video camera clearly in his hand. Now if as I said earlier, he did not film that exact incident than that is OK, show the defense the video (raw footage, not the edited stuff) and be done with it, don't say no film exists if the world can see for itself that it was being video taped.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Instead, just screw it, stop policing demonstrations. Let them have at it and warn the rest of the public off the streets if they care for their safety. Let the mob have the town. It's clear from the video, they can't pay police enough to make that a worthwhile job.

    Btw, that was no peacable assembly.

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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    What I find troubling is the evidence of the Officer Bosco, who is clearly seen in the shot with his arm way up in the air with a video camera clearly visible and yet he claims not to have shot any video that night, that is if the story itself is entirely true but as of yet I have seen no evidence to the contrary. I do not believe this officer when he says he has no video of that night, when he is clearly shown using a video camera. Now if there was no footage of the incident, the police should have just said so instead of claiming no footage exists because that I find hard to believe.

    Because I took a few stills from the video that exonerated the suspect

    I blacked out the faces of the officers because they are not the issue here, what is the issue is that in each picture you can see an officer with a video camera clearly in his hand. Now if as I said earlier, he did not film that exact incident than that is OK, show the defense the video (raw footage, not the edited stuff) and be done with it, don't say no film exists if the world can see for itself that it was being video taped.
    One thing that should be noted....that camera is a digital camera. There would be no "film". Just a hard drive.
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    Re: Jury Finds Occupy Wall Street Protester Innocent After Video Contradicts Police

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Instead, just screw it, stop policing demonstrations. Let them have at it and warn the rest of the public off the streets if they care for their safety. Let the mob have the town. It's clear from the video, they can't pay police enough to make that a worthwhile job.

    Btw, that was no peacable assembly.
    No, don't let the mob have the town, but while you are out there protecting and serving, stop trying to frame innocent people for crimes they did not commit.
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