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I thought libertarians were for legalization of drugs?
We are. Are you trying to make a point?
I thought libertarians were for legalization of drugs?
We are. Are you trying to make a point?
And I agree with this decision. There is no evidence to suggest that, because somebody is poor, he or she is automatically a drug addict, anymore than, if someone were a banker, he or she is automatically a crook. :mrgreen: But, seriously, the law was based on stereotyping, and I believe that SCOTUS will uphold the ruling.
Article is here.
The hypocrisy of a libertarian calling for drug testing.
And I agree with this decision. There is no evidence to suggest that, because somebody is poor, he or she is automatically a drug addict, anymore than, if someone were a banker, he or she is automatically a crook. :mrgreen: But, seriously, the law was based on stereotyping, and I believe that SCOTUS will uphold the ruling.
Article is here.
I'm not sure why minority groups are singled out. Poverty rates for minority groups pretty much mirror trends by whites. At a higher level but that's an intergenerational poverty problem.
I also don't agree with your idea that spending to alleviate poverty is the problem.
To me it's a problem but not the problem. The problem in my view is that higher wage jobs have been replaced by lower wage jobs.
I'm not sure how pulling the rug under individuals will do anything beyond make poverty a more painful experience.
I'm all for legalization of prime rib and lobster too. I don't want my tax money going there either.
Nice strawman. Try again, perhaps?
But bankers aren't on welfare.
:lamo Prime rib and lobster are already legal but nice try to hide the hypocrisy!
Not what he meant and you know it. :roll:
you're probably 100 percent correct. But money that is force-ably being taken from taxpayers to give to others with no work or anything else required, peeing in a cup seems very reasonable to obtain free money.
Have you personally ever done this to pass a drug test?
If that's not what he meant to say, he can certainly correct himself. He's a big boy!
People who have jobs are also periodically asked to take drug tests. What is the problem with having the same requirement for those receiving money from those same taxpayers? Sheesh! And I don't care what color they are, so don't try to make it a racist thing...that's a handy catch phrase used too often these days! If it applies to anyone receiving benefits, it's fair!
The U.S. is one of the only industrialized countries that uses prior drug screening for employment. Sad really.
The U.S. is one of the only industrialized countries that uses prior drug screening for employment. Sad really.
You're hopeless. I was hoping that my chance to make a smartass comment wouldn't fly over your head. That's fine. Be in the dark.
Damn hyper-libs. They are immune to any sort of sense.
In return for what?
I have used various methods to pass drug tests. The most effective is using clean urine. If they use a blood test, it then becomes very tricky.
I'm mostly against it because it cannot be uniformly enforced. A lot of people on welfare are raging alcoholics. They end up at the liquor store every time they collect their cheques. Problem is there is no pee test for alcohol, or tobacco. Even some illegal drugs are not testable.
So really you are just going to be targetting the hard addicts, and those people need medical help anyway, not more punishments.
I've also read that in other countries where drug testing for welfare recipients happens, there is no appreciable money-saving impact on the welfare system. In fact, the testing system usually wastes more money than it saves.
People who have jobs are also periodically asked to take drug tests. What is the problem with having the same requirement for those receiving money from those same taxpayers? Sheesh! And I don't care what color they are, so don't try to make it a racist thing...that's a handy catch phrase used too often these days! If it applies to anyone receiving benefits, it's fair!
But bankers aren't on welfare.
I fully support drug screening aid recipients and public officials. Drug screens should be more widely utilized and actions enforced against those that test positive for illegal drugs.