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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It was shot down by the courts on legal/ethical grounds, not on practical grounds. The courts don't make budgetary decisions for the state.
    The program was active in Florida for some time and the result was exactly as described. It cost more than was saved.

    By sheer coincidence, the governor had some interest in the company doing the testing.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The program was active in Florida for some time and the result was exactly as described. It cost more than was saved.

    By sheer coincidence, the governor had some interest in the company doing the testing.
    Then the correct action is to kill this at the executive level, and to go after the governor for his conflict of interests.

    The fact that they took it to court makes me skeptical.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Then the correct action is to kill this at the executive level, and to go after the governor for his conflict of interests.

    The fact that they took it to court makes me skeptical.
    In your experience, how often does the "correct action" occur when it comes to political corruption?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    In your experience, how often does the "correct action" occur when it comes to political corruption?
    Especially in Florida!

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It's a drug test. Taxpayers would rather that welfare recipients not do drugs.
    I'm a taxpayer and I don't care if they do drugs because it's simply none of my f'n business. But I have noticed that there are several distinct types of people who do care.

    There are the sadists. They are people who just generally hate the poor and want to do anything they can to make their life more difficult. They are sexually turned on by the thought of some poor person having to walk all the way across town to a drug testing center in the freezing cold. The thought of a poor person getting frostbite makes them ejaculate.

    There are the perverts. These are people who want a job at a drug testing center so they can watch people pee in a cup.

    There are the totalitarian Hitleresque holier than thou types.

    There are the fragile egos. They are people who's egos are so fragile that they need to feel superior to the poor. And forcing to do something they don't want to do is 1 way to do that.

    There are the dupes. People who have been manipulated into thinking there's a problem. They've been duped into thinking that there are droves of welfare recipients funding their $500/week crack habit with their $50/week welfare money.

    Then there is the scumbaggiest of them all. The corrupt politicians, lobbyists and drug testing company owners who just want to get rich off of taxpayer funded overpriced piss tests.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    I'm a taxpayer and I don't care if they do drugs because it's simply none of my f'n business. But I have noticed that there are several distinct types of people who do care.

    There are the sadists. They are people who just generally hate the poor and want to do anything they can to make their life more difficult. They are sexually turned on by the thought of some poor person having to walk all the way across town to a drug testing center in the freezing cold. The thought of a poor person getting frostbite makes them ejaculate.

    There are the perverts. These are people who want a job at a drug testing center so they can watch people pee in a cup.

    There are the totalitarian Hitleresque holier than thou types.

    There are the fragile egos. They are people who's egos are so fragile that they need to feel superior to the poor. And forcing to do something they don't want to do is 1 way to do that.

    There are the dupes. People who have been manipulated into thinking there's a problem. They've been duped into thinking that there are droves of welfare recipients funding their $500/week crack habit with their $50/week welfare money.

    Then there is the scumbaggiest of them all. The corrupt politicians, lobbyists and drug testing company owners who just want to get rich off of taxpayer funded overpriced piss tests.
    Having lived on South Beach, my own anecdotal experience is that there is a indeed a drug problem among the poor in Florida. Drugs hold them down. Would you hire someone who does drugs? Not if you want to run a successful business. So the fact that they're on drugs keeps them unemployed.

    Screening them for drugs would, in my opinion, help them out in the long run. If the program can get even a fraction of drug users to clean up, then it's done a lot of good.

    A lot of users can lead very successful lives, if they only can kick their drug habit. Drugs were the only thing keeping them back. Sometimes, a swift kick in the ass is exactly what's needed, for their own good.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The requirements, whatever those might be, should be determined by the ones handing out the cash.

    If taxpayers of Florida want welfare recipients to pee in a cup, then so be it. There is nothing saying that people HAVE to accept welfare checks. If you don't want to pee in a cup, don't take welfare.
    Sounds like what Jesus would have done!
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It was shot down by the courts on legal/ethical grounds, not on practical grounds. The courts don't make budgetary decisions for the state.
    Ok, but have you seen the numbers on this? How much money they wasted on this and how few people were found to be on drugs?

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sounds like what Jesus would have done!
    What's that, pee in a cup?

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What's that, pee in a cup?
    I seem to recall our Lord and Savior saying something to the effect of "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's," as a matter of fact.

    It would appear that the Almighty feels we can make welfare recipients jump through whatever hoops we damn well please. Let us make use of this boon immediately!

    "We the People" feel that Caesar needs THC laced urine, pronto!

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    I'm a taxpayer and I don't care if they do drugs because it's simply none of my f'n business. But I have noticed that there are several distinct types of people who do care.

    There are the sadists. They are people who just generally hate the poor and want to do anything they can to make their life more difficult. They are sexually turned on by the thought of some poor person having to walk all the way across town to a drug testing center in the freezing cold. The thought of a poor person getting frostbite makes them ejaculate.

    There are the perverts. These are people who want a job at a drug testing center so they can watch people pee in a cup.

    There are the totalitarian Hitleresque holier than thou types.

    There are the fragile egos. They are people who's egos are so fragile that they need to feel superior to the poor. And forcing to do something they don't want to do is 1 way to do that.

    There are the dupes. People who have been manipulated into thinking there's a problem. They've been duped into thinking that there are droves of welfare recipients funding their $500/week crack habit with their $50/week welfare money.

    Then there is the scumbaggiest of them all. The corrupt politicians, lobbyists and drug testing company owners who just want to get rich off of taxpayer funded overpriced piss tests.
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