Page 12 of 18 FirstFirst ... 21011121314 ... LastLast
Results 111 to 120 of 175

Thread: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

  1. #111
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    34,566

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The problem here is actually quite hilarious. Congress as a whole gets a worse rating than venereal disease, but most of the respondents in those polls give their own congressman high marks. LOL.
    That and, in most elections, we are offered a choice between two lying morons and asked to choose wisely.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

  2. #112
    Pontificator
    iliveonramen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    On a Gravy Train with Biscuit Wheels
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    9,158

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I already answered this question for Joko. I know that there are plenty of whites on welfare. I simply happen to have personal experience with the "baby momma" culture, so I tend to make reference to it often.

    However, even going by the statistics, it is worth pointing out that the African American welfare rate is more than two and a half times the white welfare rate, simply due to the fact that they make up a sigificantly smaller portion of the population than whites, yet still account for almost 40% of total welfare expenditures.

    There is also the following to account for:

    72% of Black Children Are Raised in Single Parent Homes

    Considering that single mothers are the greatest force driving welfare expenditures in today's economy, I would think that these numbers more than speak for themselves.



    I never said that it was "the" problem. Military expenditures, medicare, and medicaid play major roles as well. However, the simple fact of the matter is that we're never going to make any progress so long as the Left not only remains reflexively opposed to any kind of domestic spending reform, but actually insists on adding more new and equally useless programs (i.e. Obamacare) to our (nonexistent) budget each year.

    Cuts are supposed to hurt. It's time to man up and deal with what we've had coming for the better part of half a century.



    Higher wage jobs are unsustainable from an economic standpoint. You don't pay double what a job is actually worth on general principle alone.

    There is absolutely no reason why lower income earners cannot get by, and even thrive, on market determined wages.



    Poverty should be a painful experience, and that's the whole point. What possible incentive do you have to work your way up if everything's being artificially kept just fine and dandy at the bottom?

    Government dependents are living in "lala land" and the whole thing's getting ready to come crashing down around their heads. They had best start learning to fend for themselves sooner rather than later.
    The majority of our deficits are due to short run economic factors. Plain and simple. Deficits were bad under Bush due to the Bush tax cuts and two unfunded wars. The economic disaster just piled on and has cost us trillions. This "feel the pain" caucus are the same folks that caused the problem and now supposedly have the solution. Americans are right to reject the notion that cuts now are the fix. The fact is major cuts now will just compound our macro economic woes. There's really not much more to say on the subject. When the economy turns around that's the time to start looking at places we could potentially cut. The idea of deep cuts to the folks that have been hit the hardest just isn't dumb economics it's immoral.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

  3. #113
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That and, in most elections, we are offered a choice between two lying morons and asked to choose wisely.
    And it would be better to have 4 lying morons to choose from how? We would still be voting for the lesser of evils!
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  4. #114
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,356

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The majority of our deficits are due to short run economic factors. Plain and simple. Deficits were bad under Bush due to the Bush tax cuts and two unfunded wars. The economic disaster just piled on and has cost us trillions. This "feel the pain" caucus are the same folks that caused the problem and now supposedly have the solution. Americans are right to reject the notion that cuts now are the fix. The fact is major cuts now will just compound our macro economic woes. There's really not much more to say on the subject. When the economy turns around that's the time to start looking at places we could potentially cut. The idea of deep cuts to the folks that have been hit the hardest just isn't dumb economics it's immoral.
    The government should get the hell out of the way and let people go to work. Stop stifling the private sector.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  5. #115
    On Vacation
    joko104's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Seen
    12-03-17 @ 03:32 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    31,568
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    OK using YOUR criteria, alone, yet us examine the "welfare" (in all of its many forms) situation. What, other than economic failure, is used as a qualification for "welfare" benefits? Are not all of us offered a free K-12 public education? I propose denying all public assistance to those lacking a HS education, just as we willfully deny that public assistance to those that do not have dependent children. Simply because I do not make an income over the federal poverty line, I am not "entitled" to welfare (or even Medicaid) unless I have dependent children. We now have a system that encourages having children to "qualify" for welfare, yet do not require taking advantage of the free public education offered; currently 42% of those on welfare lack a HS education, while 90% are single mothers.

    A person no longer receives a high school diploma merely for attending. Many states now require passing a final exam and its not a cake walk. Statistically (and obviously) at least 49% of all people are below average intelligence. A fairly large percentage are "slow learners" intellectually and have no capability of passing such final high school exam. Therefore, I oppose a high school diploma as a condition of government assistance.

  6. #116
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    34,566

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A person no longer receives a high school diploma merely for attending. Many states now require passing a final exam and its not a cake walk. Statistically (and obviously) at least 49% of all people are below average intelligence. A fairly large percentage are "slow learners" intellectually and have no capability of passing such final high school exam. Therefore, I oppose a high school diploma as a condition of government assistance.
    I oppose encouraging breeding simply to qualify, so (using your no exclusion for education and my no exclusion for not having dependents) that would mean everyone could simply get a gov't assistance check simply for not earning enough to live "comfortably" on their own income.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

  7. #117
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,343

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That and, in most elections, we are offered a choice between two lying morons and asked to choose wisely.

  8. #118
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And it would be better to have 4 lying morons to choose from how? We would still be voting for the lesser of evils!
    ...................
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  9. #119
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,343

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    ...................
    True that! This is one example of where "the more the merrier" doesn't apply! And note that most of them are attornies....

  10. #120
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,729

    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The government should get the hell out of the way and let people go to work. Stop stifling the private sector.
    The government did that once. The result was workhouses for the poor, 16 hour work days and still not enough money to feed the kids, child labor, the company stores that charged double what regular stores charged, unsafe working conditions (remember the Shirtwaist Fire, in which hundreds died because they were locked inside the factory?), and many, many more abuses of workers by robber barons. That government should get out of the way is total BS. Human nature and past history have proven that.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

Page 12 of 18 FirstFirst ... 21011121314 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •