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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Oh yes they are. They ran their banks into the ground, and got millions in government handouts to keep them from going broke. This IS welfare, and bankers are the biggest welfare queens of them all.
    As did the unions at GM, the green weenies at Solyndra and countless other beneficiaries of our very generous public "servants" - yet we the sheeple re-elected 94% of them in last federal elections. Hmm...
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    I have used various methods to pass drug tests. The most effective is using clean urine. If they use a blood test, it then becomes very tricky.

    Not in Texas. When I was on probation and taking drug tests, I had to show them my penis, and the pee coming directly out of it.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I'd be willing to bet that the average drug or alcohol user can tell you down to the minute how long it takes to leave your system. So unless drug testing is done randomly, and not on a monthly appointment schedule, most would pass the testing... :
    Drug testing is a farce! It does not achieve anything while costing corporations billions of dollars.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not in Texas. When I was on probation and taking drug tests, I had to show them my penis, and the pee coming directly out of it.
    Innovation at its finest????
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    As did the unions at GM, the green weenies at Solyndra and countless other beneficiaries of our very generous public "servants" - yet we the sheeple re-elected 94% of them in last federal elections. Hmm...
    The problem here is actually quite hilarious. Congress as a whole gets a worse rating than venereal disease, but most of the respondents in those polls give their own congressman high marks. LOL.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    As a military man I was required to pee in the cup all the time. No problem.
    Pregnant moms are also asked to provide urine samples, done at the doctor's office, and I haven't heard anyone claiming discrimination. I admit that's a little different than expecting someone who is receiving taxpayer money to provide a urine sample, but the fact that it isn't a problem for most people does tell us that it is not unreasonable to expect same.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Innovation at its finest????
    While I was on probation, I saw, with my own eyes, 3 people being led out of the building in handcuffs, after attempting to use a whizzinator to pass their piss tests. Probation officers are not stupid people, but there are many stupid people who think they are, and pay the price for it.

    The best way to beat a drug test? Don't use drugs. It's very simple.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    As long as aid recipients are not being singled out, and public officials are being held to the same standard, I have no problem with this. But you won't see public officials held to the same standard. Why? Because, as many scandals have shown, many of them DO abuse drugs and alcohol, and what's OK for the little guy isn't OK for them.
    I'm completely fine with that. It's wrong if they were to exempt themselves. A big red flag for me is when congress knowingly and willfully exempts themselves from public provisions.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Drug testing is a farce! It does not achieve anything while costing corporations billions of dollars.
    Unless it becomes a matter of safety...airline pilots come to mind.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    I have used various methods to pass drug tests. The most effective is using clean urine. If they use a blood test, it then becomes very tricky.
    Clean urine, that's what works, they tell me. It doesn't have to be yours, it just has to be clean, they tell me.

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