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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    I fully support drug screening aid recipients and public officials. Drug screens should be more widely utilized and actions enforced against those that test positive for illegal drugs.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    The U.S. is one of the only industrialized countries that uses prior drug screening for employment. Sad really.
    Just depends. A factory that used to be near me used it for drug and alcohol screening really and serious injuries dropped significantly. Random drug test is also random alcohol test.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    The U.S. is one of the only industrialized countries that uses prior drug screening for employment. Sad really.
    I'm going to assume that your comment was made tongue-in-cheek, so I agree it is very sad indeed! If you were serious, and your information is correct, it might explain how we seem to be hearing more and more about dangerous chemical substances, that are hazardous to health, being found in the products that are being shipped here from other countries.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

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    You're hopeless. I was hoping that my chance to make a smartass comment wouldn't fly over your head. That's fine. Be in the dark.

    Damn hyper-libs. They are immune to any sort of sense.

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    In return for what?
    The Federal money they get from the gubmint. If bankers get handouts, they should be subject to the same rules as welfare recipients who get handouts. In the case of Congressmen, they aren't earning their pay, so that's a handout too.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    I have used various methods to pass drug tests. The most effective is using clean urine. If they use a blood test, it then becomes very tricky.
    I'd be willing to bet that the average drug or alcohol user can tell you down to the minute how long it takes to leave your system. So unless drug testing is done randomly, and not on a monthly appointment schedule, most would pass the testing... :

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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I'm mostly against it because it cannot be uniformly enforced. A lot of people on welfare are raging alcoholics. They end up at the liquor store every time they collect their cheques. Problem is there is no pee test for alcohol, or tobacco. Even some illegal drugs are not testable.

    So really you are just going to be targetting the hard addicts, and those people need medical help anyway, not more punishments.

    I've also read that in other countries where drug testing for welfare recipients happens, there is no appreciable money-saving impact on the welfare system. In fact, the testing system usually wastes more money than it saves.
    That also turned out to be the case in Florida.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    People who have jobs are also periodically asked to take drug tests. What is the problem with having the same requirement for those receiving money from those same taxpayers? Sheesh! And I don't care what color they are, so don't try to make it a racist thing...that's a handy catch phrase used too often these days! If it applies to anyone receiving benefits, it's fair!
    As a military man I was required to pee in the cup all the time. No problem.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    But bankers aren't on welfare.
    Oh yes they are. They ran their banks into the ground, and got millions in government handouts to keep them from going broke. This IS welfare, and bankers are the biggest welfare queens of them all.
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    Re: Florida Welfare Drug Testing Law Gets No Reprieve From Appeals Court

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I fully support drug screening aid recipients and public officials. Drug screens should be more widely utilized and actions enforced against those that test positive for illegal drugs.
    As long as aid recipients are not being singled out, and public officials are being held to the same standard, I have no problem with this. But you won't see public officials held to the same standard. Why? Because, as many scandals have shown, many of them DO abuse drugs and alcohol, and what's OK for the little guy isn't OK for them.
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