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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL. Republicans say Americans will not garden?

    Since you mentioned Gardeners, I haven't seen a crew in years here in Southern California that speaks anything other than Spanish. I can't say whether they are illegal or not, but let's be honest. I travel the country, and over the last 15-20 years, every manufacturing and processing plant I have been in, almost without exception, is dominated by workers who only speak spanish.

    These used to be jobs that provided income and experience for other minorities, and helped to establish an economic base from which they could enter into a growing middle class.



    Not any more. Illegal immigration has devastated Black communities here in Southern California. And it's encouraged by the left.
    I stand by what I wrote. I intend to be an element that help put Americans back to work in this country.

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by JackFrost View Post
    The effects of laws on one racial group being more noticeable than on other racial group is not racist, but fact.
    According to that, the fact seems to come across as "blacks are druggies whose education compels them to take lower paying jobs".

    Sounds like a culture problem to me.

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Sounds like more of a condemnation on culture, not economics.

    Saying that minimum wage and drugs are more of a black issue than a white issue is probably more racist than anything you were trying to defend. Congratulations on that.
    This. With all the antidescrimination laws on the books and AA if the average wealth of black families has not kept up with that of white families there might be another reason. A much lower instance of married parents perhaps? I wonder how the same study would equate black families and Asian families? The last I checked Asian families were even more traditional nuclear than white families with higher average intelligence and earnings. As a white guy I can't hold that against them.

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    It was the point I was trying to make. A policy doesn't have to consist of taking from the rich to give to poor to be redistribution. It can take from any group and give to any group and it will still be redistribution. Redistribution is not bad or good, but the outcomes can be bad or good. For the last 30 years, our redistributive policies have worked out very badly for the citizens of America as a whole. We don't have serfs, but the outcome of our policies is the same, albeit a slower theft from the masses.
    Distribution(of wealth and resources) which is more apt a discription, is all economics is. Redistribution merely a political slogan.

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    According to that, the fact seems to come across as "blacks are druggies whose education compels them to take lower paying jobs".

    Sounds like a culture problem to me.
    Milton Friedman: Those hurt most by the minimum wage! - YouTube

    Friedman explains the people hurt most by the minimum wage laws are blacks. It is (was?) the most anti-negro law on the books.

    CLEARLY not a "culture" problem

    Edit: Full vid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuUUpPWWK1k

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by JackFrost View Post
    Milton Friedman: Those hurt most by the minimum wage! - YouTube

    Friedman explains the people hurt most by the minimum wage laws are blacks. It is (was?) the most anti-negro law on the books.

    CLEARLY not a "culture" problem
    Yeah, uh, no. Nice strawman though.

    If an objective law negatively affects blacks more than whites, that's on them.

    Reproductive rights affect women more than men. Are they anti-male?

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yeah, uh, no. Nice strawman though.

    If an objective law negatively affects blacks more than whites, that's on them.

    Reproductive rights affect women more than men. Are they anti-male?
    It is not an objective law. Friedman explains that in the video.

    War on drugs seems like an objective law, but it is not. You fail to take into account "objective enforcement".

    The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel 1976 was awarded to Milton Friedman "for his achievements in the fields of consumption analysis, monetary history and theory and for his demonstration of the complexity of stabilization policy".
    This guy did his homework

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by JackFrost View Post
    It is not an objective law. Friedman explains that in the video.

    War on drugs seems like an objective law, but it is not. You fail to take into account "objective enforcement".



    This guy did his homework
    Yeah, I know who Friedman is. I studied him, and read The World is Flat in my global econ class. That book was a load of crap - essentially a love letter from Milty, to Milty. He has moments of brilliance, but he also has some incredibly cock-eyed ideas.

    Blaming shortcomings on economics and not race is nothing but scapegoating - nothing more, nothing less. Blaming "the man" won't earn points in my book. I call a spade a spade.

    Whining changes nothing.

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yeah, I know who Friedman is. I studied him, and read The World is Flat in my global econ class. That book was a load of crap - essentially a love letter from Milty, to Milty. He has moments of brilliance, but he also has some incredibly cock-eyed ideas.

    Blaming shortcomings on economics and not race is nothing but scapegoating - nothing more, nothing less. Blaming "the man" won't earn points in my book. I call a spade a spade.

    Whining changes nothing.
    The World is Flat by Thomas Friedman?

    What did Milton Friedman have to do with that?

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    Re: Racial Wealth Gap Tripled Since Reagan Era As Whites Increase Large Lead Over Bla

    Whooooooooooooooa...wrong Friedman.

    Scratch that comment then. You see a thread about economics, you see Friedman, you skip the chase and go to the conclusion.

    Everything else I stand by though. It's still blaming everything but race when you should blame race.

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